Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 68908 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2009 07:10:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 2009 07:10:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 50479 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2009 07:10:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 50264 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2009 07:10:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 50254 invoked by uid 99); 23 Apr 2009 07:10:08 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:10:08 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of hirsch.dick@gmail.com designates 74.125.44.153 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.44.153] (HELO yx-out-1718.google.com) (74.125.44.153) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:10:01 +0000 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so262278yxi.0 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:09:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eTVOEYdVmbVlD/O7vd7SDdzCkhFSO9NXsqGNEBPWxJI=; b=jYlh+5Ub/oT6fU5d9k6w+BBiRVB6iHIoP2Pi8VLXCsMFnTWGXFTh+LB/KnKL8WJvnG bBEftQT3ZORDOCbfb9Y1k/Plc9znjKy3y1mckcIsry2Qj8WZue23ZTnZlD+3+sHNbZEz 3OdE5VRNzuWmFDFdDJ+nqRctpd7AqTaKZK4kk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FA49+vgIQrS0U4/eJL56Y0kv2TGUrAPQbsOyNtBeTkg+stnrD36LTWDBB3QbBYuUB9 CH2oOfh2BVSi4EpiINVkn6C+S72tvF3uGbjuTiZ3xj4ZtvQpSv7mnt21ZOFBfwUCe8aa QHEvlKZ2oW2VRGD9YtzVzEMdCluD3jYtMkcCo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.36.198 with SMTP id u6mr214818ibd.36.1240470580416; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:09:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1240470237.9257.1394.camel@urgyen> References: <1240470237.9257.1394.camel@urgyen> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:09:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Suggestion regarding improvement of iCLA submission process From: Richard Hirsch To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0021cc0223824cd151046833904e X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --0021cc0223824cd151046833904e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just posted the question to legal-discuss. Let's see what they say. D. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Upayavira wrote: > I personally would just ask the secretary what he thinks - mail > secretary@. > > He's responsible for managing this stuff, and it might be easy for him > to automate sending mails. Dunno. > > Upayavira > > On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 08:56 +0200, Richard Hirsch wrote: > > I like the idea of using JIRA to track the iCLA status. It is already > > possible to submit attachments with Jira items, so that would deal with > > submissions by email. For mailed and faxed submissions, I could imagine > > volunteers scanning these items, adding them to Jira and then mailing the > > submitter the link to Jira item. > > > > I'll move the discussion to legal-discuss and see what happens. > > > > D. > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin < > > robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Richard Hirsch < > hirsch.dick@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > The current CLA submission process is described here: > > > > http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#cla-registration > > > > > > > > I'd like to make a suggestion that emails be sent to people to > submitting > > > > iCLAs so that they have idea of the status of their submission. I'd > > > suggest > > > > sending emails when an iCLA has been received, when it has been > > > > acknowledged and finally when it has been registered. > > > > > > > > This would improve the process and avoid emails in the podling > mailing > > > lists > > > > asking about the status of individual iCLA submissions. > > > > > > > > I've just submitted an iCLA via email and I have no way to check its > > > status > > > > besides looking at the Committers' page ( > > > > http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html) on a daily basis. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > don't be so quick to thanks us ;-) the price of submitting ideas is > > > being willing to actively help to make it happen :-) > > > > > > IMO asking the secretary to send more mails would just add more strain > > > to our key volunteer infrastructure. so, the some means of automation > > > would be needed. > > > > > > IMHO this means using JIRA to record and track these documents and the > > > associated workflow. the easiest way to do this would be by finding a > > > way to allow contributors to submit an iCLA via JIRA. AIUI the > > > requirement for submission by fax, email or mail is a legal one, so > > > the first step you need to take is to subscribe to legal-discuss and > > > ask what steps apache needs to take to allow submission of iCLAs via > > > JIRA. > > > > > > - robert > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --0021cc0223824cd151046833904e--