From general-return-21852-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Fri Apr 24 12:42:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 79936 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2009 12:42:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 2009 12:42:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 42342 invoked by uid 500); 24 Apr 2009 12:41:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 42150 invoked by uid 500); 24 Apr 2009 12:41:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 42140 invoked by uid 99); 24 Apr 2009 12:41:59 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:41:59 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [208.78.103.231] (HELO vorsha.objectstyle.org) (208.78.103.231) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:41:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 29532 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2009 12:41:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:::1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Apr 2009 12:41:30 -0000 Message-Id: From: Andrus Adamchik To: general@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: <918312fe0904240525v2635893dh221a0811eb50ac96@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Click graduation Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:41:29 +0300 References: <49F0BD0B.2030906@apache.org> <55afdc850904231525s24e7334dvb1526ca6fe4f7474@mail.gmail.com> <76767A48-94A9-4BB7-A4FC-D6B47B9244AB@objectstyle.org> <918312fe0904240414m64841a27l9cf4d44a55d8d077@mail.gmail.com> <6005BD68-CA7C-4C21-8746-528B96C23A11@objectstyle.org> <918312fe0904240436p2915aa5bv1998859d3b091704@mail.gmail.com> <7B0F1D58-8EA0-4842-B699-B5F3D5E59F3C@objectstyle.org> <918312fe0904240525v2635893dh221a0811eb50ac96@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Apr 24, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Andrus Adamchik > wrote: >> If you have proof otherwise, please share. > > How about that in those four years, no new committers were admitted to > the project? A project with a scope and as successful as Click could > easily have attracted 4-8 great committers over the course of 4 years. > > To ask a counter question: why haven't these contributors been > considered as committers until just *now*? Isn't that a sign of > community immaturity? > > Martijn I disagree. First of all there was another committer, who dropped off for health reasons. So the original author had no problem accepting at least 3 more people on board. Saying how many committers they should have after X years sounds like a business plan. It doesn't work this way in open source. Then there are different types of contributions. Some warrant a committership, others show that a given person should not be given SVN write access under no circumstances. Then there is a pace issue (which I think is at play here, and this is being reevaluated now), where you need to see a person become a community member before allowing SVN access. This has nothing to do with maturity, just common sense. Andrus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org