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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Olio 0.1
Date Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:29:16 GMT
On 23/04/2009, Shanti Subramanyam - PAE <Shanti.Subramanyam@sun.com> wrote:
> On 04/22/09 10:35, sebb wrote:
>
> > On 16/04/2009, Shanti Subramanyam - PAE <Shanti.Subramanyam@sun.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On 04/15/09 18:15, sebb wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 16/04/2009, Shanti Subramanyam <Shanti.Subramanyam@sun.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much for your very prompt review.
> > > > >  Answers to your questions below.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Shanti
> > > > >
> > > > >  sebb wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > The OlioDriver.jar file contains a smaller OlioDriver.jar file.
> > > > > > This is very confusing; one of the jars should be renamed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >  This is the format of the Faban (http://faban.sunsource.net) Driver
> jar
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > -
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > the user never has to do anything with it as the tool will
> automatically
> > > > > unjar and put everything in it's right place.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > The binary olio file contains several .patch and .diff files.
> These
> > > > > > don't seem correct for a binary file. What is their purpose?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >  These files are part of the 3rd party plugin fixture_replacement2.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > Since we
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > tend to include 3rd party code as is (for easier upgrade),  I think
> it
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > might
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > be better to leave them as they are.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > But why are they in the binary rails jar, rather than in just the
> source
> > > >
> > > jar?
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >  There is no difference between the source and binary code for rails (or
> php
> > > for that matter) since these are interpreted languages. The only
> difference
> > > between the source and binary packages of Olio is the geocoder and
> workload
> > > - these are written in Java so the binary packages have the
> OlioDriver.jar
> > > and geocoder.jar and the source packages have the corresponding source
> dirs.
> > >
> >
> > That does not explain why the diffs and patch files are present in the
> > binary jar, because as far as I can tell they are not intended to be
> > interpreted by rails.
> >
> > Are they actually *needed* at run-time?
> >
> >
>
>  I really don't know. As I said, there is no concept of 'binary' for
> scripting languages - the source is the binary. I will try and investigate
> this matter for the next release if it's not a major problem to leave them
> here for now.
>

I understand that there is no binary for scripting languages, and
therefore .js and .rb files appear in both source and binary archives.

However, the .diff and .patch files are scripts for a patch program,
which is used to modify source files.  Are such patches really applied
at run-time? Seems rather wasteful to me if so.

But I agree that could be fixed later.

> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > The source PHP file contains several jars; I would expect these
to
> be
> > > > > > in the binary archive only. It also contains the file "event.pdf"
> > > > > > which does not seem to belong in the archive (or indeed in SVN).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >  These are third-party jars. They are included as a convenience to
> make
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > it
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > easier to build and run the source.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > What about the event.pdf file?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >  This is a resource file used by the web application. If you notice
> there
> > > are several image files as well - these are all static files used by the
> web
> > > app.
> > >
> >
> > What about the license for the event.pdf file? Is that also AL licensed?
> >
> >
>
>  All the resource files are created as part of the apache project, so they
> are all Apache licensed.

According to its properties, the event.pdf file was created in 1999
and last modified in 2004. AFAIK, that is well before the Apache
project started.

The file event.jpg was created in 2006, which was also before the
project, and is a picture of 5 real people. Hopefully they have given
permission for their photos to be published.

Neither appears to be present in the binary file, so I'm not sure how
the web application can use them.

Note that there are other jpg files in the same directory with much
the same contents:
event_thumb.jpg, person.jpg and person_thumb.jpg.

AFAICT, these files don't belong in SVN or in any of the archives.

My vote is -1 based on the above.

>
>
> >
> > >  Shanti
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Thanks
> > > > > > >  Shanti
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  On 04/15/09 09:23, Shanti Subramanyam - PAE wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Olio community has voted and approved this first
binary
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > release of
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Olio. We are now asking for a Vote of the Incubator PMC
to
> publish
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > this
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The release includes both the PHP and Rails versions
of Olio.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The release artificats and RAT reports are available
here :
> > > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/~shanti/olio_0.1/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The mail thread and Vote results from Olio community
:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-olio-dev/200904.mbox/ajax/%3c49DD6496.9010005@sun.com%3e
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Shanti
> > > > > > > >
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