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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:53:02 +0000
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Subject: Re: What should be the consequences of missing required Incubator
	Reports?
From: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com>
To: general@incubator.apache.org
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On 2/17/09, Craig L Russell <Craig.Russell@sun.com> wrote:
>
> On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:58 PM, David Crossley wrote:
>
>>
>> If we keep relying on mentors, then we are not
>> training the podlings in the ASF way. We are actually
>> training them to leave it all up to someone else.
>>
> I believe that while a podling is getting organized (first three
> months) it's unlikely that they will "get" reporting, and during that
> time, the mentors must step up and show the way.
>
> But I agree that one or more of the podling community needs to want to
> take on the responsibilities of chairing the PMC ultimately, and
> should not depend on the mentors. One of the criteria for graduation
> should be the readiness of the PPMC to become a PMC with all the
> reporting that that involves.

I think that it's both important and useful that the content is
created by the community. But asking Mentors to be responsible for
seeing that a report was submitted probably makes sense. With my IPMC
hat on, I would like to know when a mentor has submitted a report on
the podling.

For example, I would have liked to give the XAP community up to the
deadline to submit a report, and if they failed to do so write up a
report of my own as a mentor.

Robert

>
> Craig
>
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>

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