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From Bernd Fondermann <bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: The graduation of Buildr and Abdera... + Rant
Date Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:52:49 GMT
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 16:18, Yoav Shapira <yoavs@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Garrett Rooney
> <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org> wrote:
>>> Gang,
>>> I think that the Graduation of these two projects have not been 'clean'.
>>> Both are still listed as Incubating Projects on projects/index.html,
>>> as well as part of the Incubator project navigation.
>>> Buildr is not listed in projects on www.apache.org, Abdera is listed there.
>>> And neither have updated their STATUS pages to reflect the graduation.
>>
>> You know, I was going to leave it at a nice "patches welcome", but
>> hell with it.  If you're so damn concerned about some web pages not
>> getting updated, fix it your damn self.  I've spent more time than I
>> actually have right now updating the 9 million little things that have
>> to get done when Abdera graduated, and opening my email today and
>> hearing that apparently I'm doing a shitty job because I missed some
>> of them was not exactly what I had in mind for starting my day.
>>
>> The entire process of going through incubation with Abdera has been a
>> giant pain in my ass, and I'm sick of it.  I no longer have the energy
>> to deal with this anymore.  Have fun with your overly complex rules
>> and guidelines, building bureaucracy for the sake of bureaucracy with
>> little to no gain.  I'm done with it.
>
> +1.  Niclas, good luck -- your efforts are appreciated.
>
> I'm about to send email to my current projects that I'm quitting as a
> mentor.  I don't have anything to add to the above because Garrett
> nailed it.  It's become too much of a PITA.

Wow, this reminds me of the moments when I ask my children to clean up
the mess they created when happily playing.
And I get very grumpy when _I_ am the one who cleans up in the end,
because I some other stuff to do, too. But hey - they are my kids! And
we cannot leave it that way.

  Bernd

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