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From Otis Gospodnetic <otis_gospodne...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: UIMA [WAS Re: Suspending Projects]
Date Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:52:21 GMT

My GSOC suggestion was related to the earlier comment that for some reason UIMA is unable
to engage more contributors and convert them into committers (GSoC could help get some fresh
blood), not the branch tied to the academia. :)

Otis
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----- Original Message ----
> From: Ross Gardler <rgardler@apache.org>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:40:12 PM
> Subject: Re: UIMA [WAS Re: Suspending Projects]
> 
> 2009/2/21 Otis Gospodnetic :
> >
> > Perhaps GSOC is something to consider.  I see UIMA didn't have anything in 
> 2008: http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2008
> 
> GSoC is entirly separate from the academics, it is for students. The
> problems expressed in this thread are with respect to research staff
> who produce software as part of their work.
> 
> I agree the GSoC mentoring idea can be used to do educate the staff
> within university. I'm currently seeking funding for doing something
> with this, but my existing project focuses on the research staff being
> discussed here.
> 
> Ross
> 
> >
> >
> > Otis
> > --
> > Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Thilo Goetz 
> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:31:50 PM
> >> Subject: Re: UIMA [WAS Re: Suspending Projects]
> >>
> >> Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> We should probably try to find the collective energy to review UIMA
> >> >> before the project's enthusiasm is sapped.
> >> >
> >> > That sounds like a healthy observation. My Q for the community is; Do
> >> > you have a healthy and diverse set of users? If so, have the UIMA team
> >> > looked at "What is stopping these users from becoming contributors?" ?
> >>
> >> Yes, we do have a healthy and diverse user community.  We have
> >> racked our brains what we could do to attract more community
> >> contribution.  We've created a sandbox to facilitate the inclusion
> >> of experimental technology.  There's been some uptake, but not
> >> enough.  Some of us are working on scale out via JMS and are
> >> hoping to attract contributions in that area.  We've started
> >> discussions and suggested things for people to work on.  I don't
> >> know, maybe we're going about this the wrong way.
> >>
> >> My pet hypothesis (or maybe I'm just looking for excuses) is
> >> this: UIMA is heavily used in academia.  Now academics have no
> >> problems with open source, to the contrary.  But they have an
> >> overwhelming need to publish and build up a reputation.  So
> >> they like to publish their source code on their own web site,
> >> where it's clear it's their work, rather than contribute to
> >> some community effort.  If you look around, you'll see all
> >> manner of university efforts around UIMA, but very little of
> >> that code finds its way back into the ASF repo.
> >>
> >> Enough whining.  If you have any suggestions, we'll be happy
> >> to hear them.
> >>
> >> --Thilo
> >>
> >> > I could imagine a whole range of reasons, and if that is 'fixed' the
> >> > diversity comes with it...
> >> > If there is not a user community, then I would be concerned to
> >> > graduate the project with the large set of single-employer committers.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> > Niclas
> >>
> >>
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> Ross Gardler
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