Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 45804 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2008 17:40:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 2008 17:40:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 16111 invoked by uid 500); 3 Dec 2008 17:40:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 15972 invoked by uid 500); 3 Dec 2008 17:40:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 15961 invoked by uid 99); 3 Dec 2008 17:40:44 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:40:44 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.43.133] (HELO sca-es-mail-2.sun.com) (192.18.43.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:39:14 +0000 Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id mB3He285012432 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0KBB00M018BZD400@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for general@incubator.apache.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.238.206] ([192.18.37.228]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0KBB00ETFAEEF860@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for general@incubator.apache.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:39:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:39:50 -0800 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: Keeping IPMC Membership Up To Date [WAS Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator] In-reply-to: Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: general@incubator.apache.org Message-id: <2AAC9DAA-200F-43AE-AA66-00BEB7B95161@SUN.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-25-910687566 References: X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-25-910687566 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Dec 3, 2008, at 2:38 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin >> wrote: >> >>> ...IIRC (and it's been a while) any member can alter the paperwork >>> once >>> there's been a board ACK. can anyone from boardland confirm or deny >>> this?... >> >> I think that's fine, as long as the appropriate lists are kept up >> to date. >> >> But maybe we should designate some official volunteers ("Incubator >> sheperds") to help the PMC chair for such tasks? The Incubator is a >> big thing today, having a defined way of sharing the load might help. > > +1 > > responsiveness can be crucial in maintaining momentum > >> I'd suggest electing 3-4 volunteers for that. > > +1 I've been monitoring this kind of stuff for a while. In many cases, new folks don't know their own karma. The *only thing* I won't do is ask the board for an ack for a member. Have to have something for the PMC chair to do. ;-) Craig > > > - robert > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! --Apple-Mail-25-910687566 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIGUDCCAwkw ggJyoAMCAQICECvOQSuIjHMvOZRC95BRg/wwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3MTIxMDE1MjM1MVoXDTA4MTIwOTE1MjM1 MVowbDEQMA4GA1UEBBMHUnVzc2VsbDEUMBIGA1UEKhMLQ3JhaWcgTGFpcmQxHDAaBgNVBAMTE0Ny YWlnIExhaXJkIFJ1c3NlbGwxJDAiBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWFUNyYWlnLlJ1c3NlbGxAU3VuLkNPTTCC ASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBAKzqGlLUastboCRqc0iBoTz2ODcqpMpEyPUo nYtluchkSIoWzOW63AuoTczRt9sKfhwoK5mope+62B6Li06WJabm2UHqKAaNSuMHLsmyqvOdwbSt enY7/HxOSCMqVoyVBTRJc2M8feCSVgi7ptGq9cM+Maa64R1/p9zqaQNucceU/1uper90bWplsjAT rHgicgr9XJIQb6uYjhjlgxxnY/aispnCvLxMX+CiA2FWeeJTI7AiFlLwibTXYF4v12ToByvXtTiJ knuND8qpwhK3Wp0tL4ae8mZ0nlKjCuNnqh99ZyEyTFHZBfVx8WSWRXkY4qxCG/IDQUo7WUaefOQT 1mECAwEAAaMyMDAwIAYDVR0RBBkwF4EVQ3JhaWcuUnVzc2VsbEBTdW4uQ09NMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQC MAAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEAEqfFNFoch0QPVKWJ4maAZl3MJD10yMeWt5xb+WNSkhYKHD8I 42E8tpdE3kmc5wp2cZrz9JqJF/KCQ/gI4pmDk1qpTs5pvXzFNiD5Lu5eLza4iyxSlTHUXcCnyNC6 4m0qC8p4m/51NEql5hyacj/+vdlEe5dygpyNGUCiyA/SdAswggM/MIICqKADAgECAgENMA0GCSqG SIb3DQEBBQUAMIHRMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQH EwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZp Y2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERpdmlzaW9uMSQwIgYDVQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1h aWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNvbmFsLWZyZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNMDMw NzE3MDAwMDAwWhcNMTMwNzE2MjM1OTU5WjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3Rl IENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWls IElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAMSmPFVzVftOucqZWh5owHUE cJ3f6f+jHuy9zfVb8hp2vX8MOmHyv1HOAdTlUAow1wJjWiyJFXCO3cnwK4Vaqj9xVsuvPAsH5/Ef kTYkKhPPK9Xzgnc9A74r/rsYPge/QIACZNenprufZdHFKlSFD0gEf6e20TxhBEAeZBlyYLf7AgMB AAGjgZQwgZEwEgYDVR0TAQH/BAgwBgEB/wIBADBDBgNVHR8EPDA6MDigNqA0hjJodHRwOi8vY3Js LnRoYXd0ZS5jb20vVGhhd3RlUGVyc29uYWxGcmVlbWFpbENBLmNybDALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwKQYD VR0RBCIwIKQeMBwxGjAYBgNVBAMTEVByaXZhdGVMYWJlbDItMTM4MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GB AEiM0VCD6gsuzA2jZqxnD3+vrL7CF6FDlpSdf0whuPg2H6otnzYvwPQcUCCTcDz9reFhYsPZOhl+ hLGZGwDFGguCdJ4lUJRix9sncVcljd2pnDmOjCBPZV+V2vf3h9bGCE6u9uo05RAaWzVNd+NWIXiC 3CEZNd4ksdMdRv9dX2VPMYIDEDCCAwwCAQEwdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhh d3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECECvOQSuIjHMvOZRC95BRg/wwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAW8wGAYJKoZIhvcN AQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMDgxMjAzMTczOTUxWjAjBgkqhkiG9w0B CQQxFgQUsH6wpw0jft/+GDZ488LNssZ4sjUwgYUGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDF4MHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMC WkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0 ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhArzkEriIxzLzmUQveQUYP8MIGHBgsqhkiG 9w0BCRACCzF4oHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQ dHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhAr zkEriIxzLzmUQveQUYP8MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIIBABPOfGhE5mj6QOk3xl0k1TNjTSy2ggKw XT2z4SUPjkKL8+BnZx1qg704P74vs4tiW8E1ilJDhfnUp7QHxgP/daddb3tsZelQgNGqrcG+PdfO LSuqcSeEnXzQRi520Q9/zJJwWS2SV6g+4OySW11lXfRbHHUUWNfmDKy/vZr51Grx5jWSoMehYUK/ DxMLNqy14eCNlNhaUTdAVDFDziBsE2E/WdFm9qJGlvt5J7UO1a10H+NWs1EdYPeqEqqqvznGlUjS ga0D3pjR6dZUIsQf+dMHg7kptgpA4e3oA5L4uL5jxEck1z74CdqcnwLmoVrRo/4PqskSrPy1BdaE hRUDO2gAAAAAAAA= --Apple-Mail-25-910687566--