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From Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator
Date Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:59:12 GMT
On Wednesday 26 November 2008 3:49:09 pm Craig L Russell wrote:
> Apologies. My inbox never received the messages with the attachment.
>
> My only concern is that from the description, the project appears to
> be run in real time, with decisions made "through collaborative
> decision-making on the mailing list, through daily scrum calls, via
> Twitter and using open discussion on ESME itself."
>
> The risk is that decisions go by so quickly that it's difficult for
> someone not totally immersed in the real-time discussions to have a
> voice.
>
> I expect that the mentors will keep an eye on this so as to avoid
> excluding potential contributors who don't have the bandwidth to keep
> up in real time but might have useful things to say.

As a mentor, this is on my "concern list", but isn't something that's a 
concern for ENTERING incubation.   It's something that will be learned and 
addressed during incubation and will be resolved before they graduate.   If 
this was  graduation vote, definitely a -1, but for an entering vote, nope.   

Once they are in the incubator, we'll definitely make sure they start 
following Apache guidelines and such.

Dan


>
> +1 for incubation.
>
> Craig
>
> On Nov 26, 2008, at 12:32 PM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Craig L Russell <Craig.Russell@sun.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> >>
> >> Point of order.
> >>
> >> The proposal that we're supposed to vote on was never attached to
> >> the [VOTE]
> >> email, as pointed out by Bertrand on 17-Nov, and me on 21-Nov.
> >>
> >> Makes me wonder if anyone is reading the comments.
> >
> > <snip/>
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/luzictfoyj5tmroh
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/4o5c6citovsovlv5
> >
> > -Rahul
> >
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> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
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Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog

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