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From David Crossley <cross...@apache.org>
Subject Re: accommodate non-native-English-writing developers
Date Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:00:49 GMT
Luciano Resende wrote:
> Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
> >David Crossley wrote:
> >>
> >> Mail lists:
> >> Should people just partipipate on the podling's
> >> dev mail list in their own languages? Then expect
> >> that someone summarises the outcomes and decisions
> >> into English/Japanese. Or would it be better to have
> >> separate dev language lists, with the same
> >> summarising outcome. The former would enable replies
> >> to be threaded with the other language.
> >
> > i think one dev list is the right way to approach this problem. it's
> > important for the development community to have a single forum for
> > discussion and decision making.
> 
> I agree that we should have one official dev list in english.

I am wondering, and i thought that Robert was agreeing,
that yes the dev list be primarily in English, but to lessen
developer fragmentation they could post in their own language.

Each PMC would need to decide whether to allow that
and which languages they can support.

See below for a translation idea.

> > i'm not so sure about the user lists (perhaps someone from tuscany
> > could jump in and tell us about their chinese users forum)
> 
> In Tuscany, our experience with having a non-English mailing list has
> been very interesting, the forum has been created just a month or two
> ago and the number of subscribers and the activity on it has been
> growing very rapidly, this makes me think that there is indeed a
> language barrier that would prevent some individuals to participate in
> the english discussion lists, although these members are very
> technically skilled and willing to consume and become a contributor of
> your project.
> 
> In order to allow others to be aware of what's going on in this forum,
> we have Raymond, our Chinese speaking community member, watching the
> forum, and communicating issues back to our official English list. We
> also found it very useful to use Google infrastructure to perform
> automatic-translation of the forum [1], this allows anyone to lurk
> around and have a feeling of what's being discussed.
> 
> [1] http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http:%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Ftuscany-sca-chinese&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=zh-CN&tl=en

I wonder if it would be appropriate to modify mod_mbox to
add a footer option to translate. That way any of our
mail lists could be immediately translated via
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/

Also all english-speaking developers could translate any
posting and reply in english.

-David

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