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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:00:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gurkan Erdogdu <gurkanerdogdu@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]
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Hi,

First of all, there are lots of places that I could propose my project, but I think that open source development with the Apache Way conveys the real Free and Professional Open Source Project with meritrocracy in action. 

This code could be part of the Geronimo project as its Web Beans container, or could be the top level project its own. I only know that there is only one effort to create RI, this is the JBoss RI  (Pete Muir is responsible for implementing, Gavin King for creating the spec) at the web side http://seamframework.org/WebBeans. And its implementation is in the early stage. 

Indeed, Apache way implementation makes different from the others, because and most importantly its developed based on the Apache Way and it also creates additions to the RI with creating add-on components that are based on the other Apache projects, such as, OpenEJB, OpenJPA, JSecurity, ActiveMQ etc, possible. Morevoer, It's always good to have multiple implementations of a spec so enterprise community benefits from the different imlpementations, and they choose the best (Like MyFaces and Sun JSF imeplemtnations.)

I am ready for doing lots of work to this project progresses. Moreover, I get some great response from the below individuals to help this project succesfull,

- Kevan Miller : As a mentor and partly committer
- Conny Lundgren : JSR-299 EG member as a committer.

And also, I think the committer number is increased by the time.

As I said in the beginning, I believe that open source must be transparent, and the community appreciates the heavy working to implement this spec within the Apache Foundation.

Sincerely;

Gurkan Erdogdu


----- Original Message ----
From: J Aaron Farr <farra@apache.org>
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:13:05 AM
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]

Gurkan Erdogdu <gurkanerdogdu@yahoo.com> writes:

> Hi to all;
>
> I have posted a proposal about the project, named OpenWebBeans.
>
> It is in the WIKI, its address is
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenWebBeansProposal

I have a number of questions before I can support the proposal:

Where do you expect this code / community to end up after the
incubator?  Will it be part of Geronimo?  Part of MySpaces?  It's own
TLP?  I can say now that if the project is to stand on its own, then
there's a lot of work to do.

It seems as though there are 2 or 3 other Apache licensed efforts in
creating a RI for JSR-299: Gavin King's work, JBoss's work and the
rumored Guice work.  What makes this RI effort any different?  Why
should the ASF support this project instead of one of the others?

I'm concerned that there's only one listed committer.  Getting to at
least 3 committers is going to have to be the first order of business
for this podling.

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