Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 98154 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2008 15:59:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Sep 2008 15:59:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 21371 invoked by uid 500); 28 Sep 2008 15:59:36 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 21236 invoked by uid 500); 28 Sep 2008 15:59:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 21222 invoked by uid 99); 28 Sep 2008 15:59:36 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:59:36 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jukka.zitting@gmail.com designates 209.85.198.242 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.198.242] (HELO rv-out-0708.google.com) (209.85.198.242) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:58:36 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so1784487rvb.0 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:59:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=7fR0YUPLb+5bdY+CzFIPLoyUXEPn5OITToJI1wSw+fI=; b=f+tZM/yGRiI4FSETryYWzTYysCctmT5Pr44oVrijVINwrGFTCvkb8yzuwylIML8DQG 9aoiFbcU+QQJ2EDPVr+4b+7QKYIsKmVTO+3BchmxXO/toBUJ5SjSx6nS5cwo0ATAp/uK CNP5J/qAXg8bervoNYpk31u7VY94KFHt+2RcI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=anVWWs0CNrYHz3UT87EFv3g97cbFsvpknGVtUOlsRWMxUFju+4etgXTTqpO3ugrpBt Z3PuNYqZp8QY/vl53VvllUvNObFkLUS9G96KwBc33D+6qGMHXAS9ataPBigMl9fzCTCt Nbea9p+u0DpHUQF5Mq2KqvgQ33Zh6YBfT/tEQ= Received: by 10.140.192.9 with SMTP id p9mr1892675rvf.193.1222617550476; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.210.5 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <510143ac0809280859pc4044d8ub2a5fa57b6931f09@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:59:10 +0200 From: "Jukka Zitting" To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: On incubating releases In-Reply-To: <19e0530f0809280719w7761929bn6df6777cc136a56a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <510143ac0809260541h21809939u9252426780f1b5c6@mail.gmail.com> <19e0530f0809271603v64c1470fve0b7f0066663f97f@mail.gmail.com> <9E2F4F95-536C-4E39-A030-3602B5B50692@maven.org> <19e0530f0809271646q1e6f95aegb3c199a5bcd7eeda@mail.gmail.com> <48DECD03.4030306@rowe-clan.net> <19e0530f0809271723v546a3af5m324498fa979688e1@mail.gmail.com> <48DED9F4.3050200@rowe-clan.net> <19e0530f0809280433n4d34bc7eqa7848fb4935a387a@mail.gmail.com> <510143ac0809280628r41044000od1f9edd0e4100b3b@mail.gmail.com> <19e0530f0809280719w7761929bn6df6777cc136a56a@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > I'll repeat again. The solution currently imposed is not ideal. It's > not working. Problem is there is no other way. Thanks for the patience! :-) I'm not that interested in the technical issues. I just don't understand why we'd want users of the example project B to go through extra steps when we don't require that of the users of project A. That's a pure policy issue. All the debate about separate repositories and gpg trust chains is just implementation details. I'm trying to understand the need of such a discriminating policy in the first place, not the mechanisms we could use to implement it. > For folks who are bundling, they can somehow embed that gpg key or > some other way, they can signal maven that it's ok to not prompt the > user again as Project B folks already taking responsibility for those > specific dependencies. If that's OK, i.e. that users of project B wouldn't need to go through extra steps to get the incubating dependencies, then what's the point of having a policy whose main purpose is to make those users go through the extra steps? BR, Jukka Zitting --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org