Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 78252 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2008 23:00:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Sep 2008 23:00:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 55233 invoked by uid 500); 26 Sep 2008 23:00:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55068 invoked by uid 500); 26 Sep 2008 23:00:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55057 invoked by uid 99); 26 Sep 2008 23:00:19 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:00:19 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of davanum@gmail.com designates 209.85.128.190 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.128.190] (HELO fk-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.128.190) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:59:18 +0000 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 19so1118932fkr.12 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:59:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ryOPXuSOACEVq3v6Jl/KGjqrgo7jxjPeEXuWq/XpI1k=; b=xq0AF3K/ZKsPh49jPqUUjVOj7JBwPx+b6FFJLiL8kTxP9sw9f+6A8i2uwZtavw7yVh F+3ZG9byBOslsSvr7JUbzHjubn1F/StnpCl+W5st2kzh28O8HlP/dl5Unc504KPVrrkw np5wwTCePSiSm3Fso5f4v1kK8MbMdWpAoGp7o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mvhOgP4yVRY8tj+e0fwoFnkMTF599lj8/cJXB9tBiHMzwAqxMHL805PII9+CZ/4/8K kAwCRdXJb+9WYGcOHLKIgeXE2ANCy+8w2w5sKIbL7fXSaEyi7MWxqcT1Nw6Us1vohrB8 wpfBt3w4ccsnUOSYMlmZHgnqlvbEXad/SLW0s= Received: by 10.180.245.6 with SMTP id s6mr1078884bkh.39.1222469980657; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.181.24.10 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19e0530f0809261559k74ef3308l6c2509e908c01ee9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:59:40 -0400 From: "Davanum Srinivas" To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Incubator dependencies in Apache projects In-Reply-To: <48DD58ED.9080000@apache.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <510143ac0809261340q72b13a37q86a28e975efee9f2@mail.gmail.com> <1222462481.25640.52.camel@urgyen> <48DD58ED.9080000@apache.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I agree with Doug. We don't need explicit disclaimers. We can encourage them however to mention it somewhere appropriate. thanks, dims On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: > Upayavira wrote: >> >> Exactly. I was writing something much the same. We could even require >> TLP projects that have incubating dependencies to include a statement in >> their releases to that effect: "Should any of our incubating >> dependencies fail incubation, we (the TLP) will take responsibility for >> that code so as to continue supporting our users." > > -1 Do we require similar disclaimers when we depend on BSD licensed code > from SourceForge that one guy wrote and that hasn't been updated in a year? > Outside of legalities, it's up to each PMC to decide whether a dependency > is a good for its project. Sometimes the best solution isn't a great > solution, but it might be better than no solution at all. If a project > depends on something that dies, then it has to decide whether it can live > without it, reanimate it, use something else, or whatever. We don't > otherwise mandate back-compatibility from one release to the next. Back > compatibility is a very good way to maintain a community, but it's not > absolutely required by the ASF. > > Doug > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > -- Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org