From general-return-19755-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Tue Sep 23 13:01:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 95779 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2008 13:01:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Sep 2008 13:01:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 77052 invoked by uid 500); 23 Sep 2008 13:01:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 76776 invoked by uid 500); 23 Sep 2008 13:01:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 76765 invoked by uid 99); 23 Sep 2008 13:01:20 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:01:20 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jim@jagunet.com designates 209.133.199.10 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.133.199.10] (HELO jimsys.jaguNET.com) (209.133.199.10) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:00:21 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jimsys.jaguNET.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A52E36C7186 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:00:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <36C594B7-A518-4970-BA6E-DA31A8A0C8F7@jaguNET.com> From: Jim Jagielski To: general@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: <48D81F03.10104@force-elite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:00:24 -0400 References: <510143ac0809092334j274d0055xd7ed34ea758dca0f@mail.gmail.com> <4EB074B2-F422-4F63-94E0-84958F4D3B12@SUN.com> <48D81F03.10104@force-elite.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org -1 (Binding) On Sep 22, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Paul Querna wrote: > -1, (Binding). > > (For the reasons explained by Craig and Justin in this Thread) > > Thanks, > > Paul > > Craig L Russell wrote: >> -1 >> I believe that allowing incubating releases to be treated as full >> Apache releases diminishes the Apache brand and makes incubation >> disclaimers moot. >> With Maven, it is too easy to depend on a release with transitive >> dependencies on incubating releases without even knowing it. When >> the incubating release subsequently is abandoned, blame will be >> cast widely, including Apache itself. >> Considering that dependencies on incubating releases can be >> resolved by explicitly adding an incubating Maven repository into >> your settings, I don't think that wide, mirrored, distribution is >> warranted. >> Craig >> On Sep 9, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> We've had a number of long discussions about the incubating projects >>> using the central Maven repository to distribute their releases. The >>> current policy is that incubating releases should not go to there. >>> The >>> related discussion threads have died with no consensus but the issue >>> still exists and affects many podlings. I would like to finally >>> resolve the issue one way or another by calling the Incubator PMC to >>> vote on the matter. >>> >>> In INCUBATOR-82 I have prepared a patch (also attached below) that >>> changes the policy document to explicitly _allow_ extra distribution >>> channels like the central Maven repository for incubating releases. >>> Note that the proposed patch allows any such channels instead of >>> focusing just on the Maven repository. Also, any releases must still >>> be approved, comply with the disclaimer and naming rules, and be >>> primarily distributed through the official >>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ channel. >>> >>> Please vote on accepting or rejecting this policy change! This >>> majority vote is open for a week and only votes from the Incubator >>> PMC >>> members are binding. >>> >>> [ ] +1 Yes, allow extra release distribution channels like the >>> central >>> Maven repository >>> [ ] -1 No, keep the current policy >>> >>> My vote is +1 >>> >>> BR, >>> >>> Jukka Zitting >>> >>> Patch from https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-82: >>> >>> Index: site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml >>> =================================================================== >>> --- site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml (revision >>> 692094) >>> +++ site-author/incubation/Incubation_Policy.xml (working copy) >>> @@ -489,6 +489,8 @@ >>>

>>> Releases for podling MUST be distributed >>> through >>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/podling. >>> +In addition, the Podling MAY choose to distribute approved >>> releases through >>> +other channels like the central Maven repository. >>>

>>> >>>
>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>> >> Craig L Russell >> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo >> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com >> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org