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From "Matthieu Riou" <matth...@offthelip.org>
Subject Re: On incubating releases
Date Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:48:28 GMT
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitting@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Davanum Srinivas <davanum@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Since disclaimers are not part of the Apache License, they are no
> > obligated to. All we are trying to do here is to not let our folks use
> > a channel where it's not explicit.
> >
> > Even if all the other channels strip out all the incubator
> > disclaimers, there's nothing we can do about it. and is perfectly
> > legal.
> >
> > Am sure you know both of these...Not sure if you are trying to get me
> > to say something else :)
>
> No sinister motives, I just wanted to make sure that we're on the same
> page. :-)
>
> So assuming we agree on the above, let's go back to the Maven issue.
>
> Consider an Ant project A that bundles an incubating release as a
> dependency in a lib directory that's included when you download the
> sources of A. This should be OK as discussed above, and the end user
> doesn't need to go through any extra steps to get the incubating
> dependency. Project A may choose to warn the user about the incubating
> dependency, but we don't mandate that.
>
> Then consider a Maven project B that declares a dependency to an
> incubating release. Now, according to current policy, the end user
> should explicitly allow incubating dependencies by adding special
> configuration before he or she can build project B sources.
>
> Why should things be more complex for the users of project B?
>

It wouldn't. Project B would have the incubator repository included in its
list. Or they could also have the released jar in their lib, Maven allows
that, like most build systems I know.

Matthieu


>
> I would better understand the objections against Maven distribution if
> the same standards were applied to all kinds of downstream projects
> and their users.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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