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From "Jukka Zitting" <jukka.zitt...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository
Date Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:53:43 GMT
Hi,

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:17 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
<wrowe@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> Jukka Zitting wrote:
>> This is a slight majority (of binding votes) for accepting the
>> proposed change, but given the clear lack of consensus and the
>> concerns voiced about that, I unfortunately need to conclude that this
>> issue should be tabled until better consensus is reached.
>
> Nonsense.  That's as if to say [VOTE] was actually supposed to be [POLL].
> A decision, however frustrating, has been reached.

>From http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html, on majority votes:

    If the number of votes seems too small to be representative of
    a community consensus, the issue is typically not pursued.

We had 28 binding votes out of 85 and the difference in result was
just three votes, which in my opinion is "too small to be
representative".

> I suspect some would prefer the choice against their preference just be
> implemented, over having this thread persist ad infinitum.

If Noel or other people who voted against the proposal feel that the
result is representative, then I will implement the proposed change

>> The main impression I got from the related discussion is that the main
>> concern is not that much the security or transparency of the Maven
>> repository but rather the status of incubating releases in general.
>
> Of which we have two; released, or not released, and that's a product
> of oversight and a [VOTE].  There are no magical in-betweens.

As evidenced by this vote this is hardly the consensus. See comments
like "incubating releases to be treated as full Apache releases" or
"incubator artifacts are distributed the same way as 'regular'
artifacts". There is clearly a widely held feeling that incubating
releases are different than "normal" ASF releases.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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