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From "Davanum Srinivas" <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: On incubating releases
Date Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:46:32 GMT
Jason,

Exactly why in previous discussions i already asked..."Can the maven
folks provide another way to do this?" (not showing disclaimers
necessarily, something that the user has to do one time works too.
Example: apt-get and keys)

-- dims

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Jason van Zyl <jason@maven.org> wrote:
>
> On 27-Sep-08, at 7:03 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>
>> Am asking because, the way the situation is being portrayed is that
>> anyone using maven is totally unable to use the incubator
>> artifacts...that's wrong.
>>
>
> It's just amazingly inconvenient.
>
> Take the 10 minutes (and that's a conservative number) that every user goes
> through groping around trying to figure out how setup the repositories and
> multiply that by 5k (which is not unreasonable for something as popular as
> JSecurity) and now multiply that by the number of projects and we're
> literally getting into man years of wasted time. To consciously inflict this
> on people when it's not necessary is exacting a serious amount of damage.
> Every user who can't build something here as a first time user is going to
> make their first experience a bad one.
>
> For us to pontificate here about how we should be protecting a generally
> intelligent user base while wasting man years of users' valuable  time to me
> is wrong.
>
>> thanks,
>> dims
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Davanum Srinivas <davanum@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jukka,
>>>
>>> I see where you are going with this. But what i cannot for the life of
>>> me understand is why adding a tiny snippet of xml to project B's pom
>>> is so objectionable (adding another repo)? No one has yet answered
>>> that question for me.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> dims
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitting@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Davanum Srinivas <davanum@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I know...hence my VOTE was what it was.
>>>>
>>>> So my questions go out to people who opposed the proposed policy change:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Is it OK for project A to bundle the incubating dependency?
>>>>
>>>> 2) If yes, why should things be more complex for project B?
>>>>
>>>> BR,
>>>>
>>>> Jukka Zitting
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com
>>
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>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
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>
> Simplex sigillum veri. (Simplicity is the seal of truth.)
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