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From "Davanum Srinivas" <>
Subject Re: On incubating releases
Date Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:21:13 GMT
I know...hence my VOTE was what it was.

-- dims

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Jukka Zitting <> wrote:
> Hi,
> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Davanum Srinivas <> wrote:
>> Since disclaimers are not part of the Apache License, they are no
>> obligated to. All we are trying to do here is to not let our folks use
>> a channel where it's not explicit.
>> Even if all the other channels strip out all the incubator
>> disclaimers, there's nothing we can do about it. and is perfectly
>> legal.
>> Am sure you know both of these...Not sure if you are trying to get me
>> to say something else :)
> No sinister motives, I just wanted to make sure that we're on the same page. :-)
> So assuming we agree on the above, let's go back to the Maven issue.
> Consider an Ant project A that bundles an incubating release as a
> dependency in a lib directory that's included when you download the
> sources of A. This should be OK as discussed above, and the end user
> doesn't need to go through any extra steps to get the incubating
> dependency. Project A may choose to warn the user about the incubating
> dependency, but we don't mandate that.
> Then consider a Maven project B that declares a dependency to an
> incubating release. Now, according to current policy, the end user
> should explicitly allow incubating dependencies by adding special
> configuration before he or she can build project B sources.
> Why should things be more complex for the users of project B?
> I would better understand the objections against Maven distribution if
> the same standards were applied to all kinds of downstream projects
> and their users.
> BR,
> Jukka Zitting
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