Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 41596 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2008 18:04:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Aug 2008 18:04:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 82056 invoked by uid 500); 26 Aug 2008 18:04:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 81909 invoked by uid 500); 26 Aug 2008 18:04:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 81898 invoked by uid 99); 26 Aug 2008 18:04:10 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:04:10 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.43.133] (HELO sca-es-mail-2.sun.com) (192.18.43.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:03:11 +0000 Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m7QI3VXa014938 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K6700B01YSMYH00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for general@incubator.apache.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d-mpk11-30-20.SFBay.Sun.COM ([129.146.30.20]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K67009SDZHO7P70@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for general@incubator.apache.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:03:22 -0700 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: Add voting guide to incubator docs? In-reply-to: <918312fe0808240459l6ad597c2o3c213518950a406b@mail.gmail.com> Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: general@incubator.apache.org Message-id: <4ED8A001-FED5-4A97-9DC4-568B7BFE5E48@SUN.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-28-948434199 References: <918312fe0808240459l6ad597c2o3c213518950a406b@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-28-948434199 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Martijn, On Aug 24, 2008, at 4:59 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > There is always a lot of confusion on whose votes are binding in our > podlings. The PPMC guide has a small, easy to overlook sentence which > states the obviously not so obvious: "And note that binding votes are > those cast by Incubator PMC members." I believe that the confusion is among people who have not actually read the guide in detail, and think they know the process, or think they have a better idea of how to run the process. > > > Any objections to crafting such a document, and who would want to take > the lead? As this would be a guide, this would be CTR. While I have no objection to your crafting such a document, I suspect that documentation isn't the issue. It's failure to read the documentation or failure to ask questions where the existing documentation isn't clear. Do you have any ideas on how to make sure that people read and understand the documentation, either the existing or proposed update? Craig > > > IMO a structure would be something like this: > > Voting > - when to vote > - how to vote > - whose vote is binding > - when to nofify the Incubator PMC > > Martijn > > > -- > Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com > Apache Wicket 1.3.4 is released > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? 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