Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 37401 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2008 16:13:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Jul 2008 16:13:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 60498 invoked by uid 500); 9 Jul 2008 16:13:36 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 60352 invoked by uid 500); 9 Jul 2008 16:13:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 60341 invoked by uid 99); 9 Jul 2008 16:13:35 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:13:35 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.43.132] (HELO sca-es-mail-1.sun.com) (192.18.43.132) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:12:40 +0000 Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m69GCqmI016876 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K3Q00001XVT0400@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for general@incubator.apache.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.238.206] ([192.18.37.228]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K3Q00CPFYDCY880@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for general@incubator.apache.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:12:46 -0700 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: Installers for couchdb In-reply-to: <003801c8e1e2$0c98fb30$0dfbfdc0@computer> Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: general@incubator.apache.org Message-id: <3EF9FB5A-D441-4E67-BE2A-B23984A7F856@SUN.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--1057918166 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <003801c8e1e2$0c98fb30$0dfbfdc0@computer> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-3--1057918166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Philippe Ombredanne wrote: > Howdy: > I am working on couchdb installers that I would like to contribute =20 > back to > the project: > A fully functional CouchDb install has a few external dependencies =20 > such as: > - ICU (ICU License a BSD/MIT style license) > - Mozilla SpiderMonkey (MPL, GPL or LGPL) > - Erlang (ERLANG PUBLIC LICENSE) > - Openssl (OpenSSL license, a BSD style license) > > My understanding is that it would not be acceptable IP-clearance =20 > wise to > have all (though some may be) those bits shipped as part of all-=20 > inclusive > installers. That's my understanding of the current consensus as well. > > > My request: > Would it be acceptable to create installers that would fetch at =20 > install time > the required external bits from their original download locations? > Those fetch operations would be clearly presented as external fetch > operationsto the users. I think the current operative policy is from = http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html=20 : =95 For add-ons under excluded licenses, the PMC may provide a = link/=20 reference on the product web site or within product documentation to =20 some other web site that hosts such add-ons (e.g. a SF.net project or =20= some third-party site dedicated to distributing add-ons for the Apache =20= product) as long as it is made clear to users that the host site is =20 not part of the Apache product nor endorsed by the ASF. =95 For add-ons under excluded licenses, the PMC may include a = feature =20 within the product that allows the user to obtain third-party add-ons =20= if the feature also alerts the user of the associated license and =20 makes clear to users that the host site is not part of the Apache =20 product nor endorsed by the ASF. So as long as your installer makes it clear to the user that the =20 external bits are not Apache-licensed, I read the policy as allowing =20 the CouchDb installer to fetch and install them and thereby make them =20= available to the CouchDb user. Craig > > Cordially > > > --=20 > Cheers > Philippe > > philippe ombredanne | 1 650 799 0949 | pombredanne at nexb.com > nexB - Open by Design (tm) - http://www.nexb.com > http://easyeclipse.org - http://phpeclipse.net - = http://eclipse.org/atf=20 > - > http://eclipse.org/vep - http://labs.jboss.org/drools/ - > http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XULRunner > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? 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