One possible complication to this is that all the code in Click
currently has a copyright header assigned to Malcolm Edgar, even if
they were contributed from other comitters. So in committing code
people have explicity assigned their copyright to me. This was a
habit I picked up from working on Tapestry.
However I don't know whether this copright statement would has legal
standing, or is in the spirity of Apache.
regards Malcolm Edgar
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Andrus Adamchik <andrus@objectstyle.org> wrote:
>> Let's take this to legal-discuss and see what comes out. After all, that
>> is where the lawyers lurk.
>
> Good idea.
>
> Also keep in mind that the problem scope is not limited to the projects
> coming to the incubator. It also affects contributions to the existing
> projects by new people. Currently anything beyond a trivial patch (submitted
> via Jira with "include in ASF product" radio button), requires an ICLA. We
> specifically tell people to sign an ICLA. With Roy's interpretation, we
> should be telling them "post this code on the web somewhere, adding a BSD
> license header, and we'll use it".
>
> Andrus
>
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
>
>> I feel your pain and I know that Cayenne was in a bad spot because of
>> this. But if we can ease the process for others, why not?
>>
>> Let's take this to legal-discuss and see what comes out. After all, that
>> is where the lawyers lurk.
>>
>> Ciao
>> Henning
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:42 -0400, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
>>>
>>>> My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other
>>>> contributor) contributed that code to a project that is already under
>>>> AL2. So there is no need to track down the contributors and/or rewrite
>>>> code where the contributor can not be tracked down. The AL allows
>>>> relicensing under AL2 ( :-) ), so the code in the repository is fine.
>>>
>>> The policy may have changed, but the above was NOT true when Cayenne
>>> was incubating. What I suspect is happening is that there is no
>>> *policy* as such, and instead we have a range of opinions.
>>>
>>> What you (and Roy) are saying makes sense to me, but it goes against
>>> everything I know about the practiced IP clearance process at Apache.
>>>
>>> Andrus
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