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From Davanum Srinivas <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Do we really need an incubator?
Date Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:24:36 GMT
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Happy to confirm it was indeed a rant :) Just wanted folks to see all points of view before
they cast their vote.
Especially to at least understand why a particular "feature" was in place and think thru the
pros and cons.


William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
| Angela Cymbalak wrote:
|> I think that I am in a unique position to comment on this question.  I
|> am sure there are a lot of legal things and the Maven repository that
|> can be pointed to as reasons why not to have an Incubator but I have
|> been very pleased with the fact that Apache *does* have the
|> Incubator.  It has been incredibly helpful to me as I attempt to find
|> the right people to show me the ropes at Apache.  Code releases aside,
|> it appears that it is generally accepted that people and projects who
|> are part of the incubator are either novices with Apache or those who
|> are willing to help the novices.  Without that starting point, finding
|> new people and projects could become limited.  There is a centralized
|> place at Apache for those who are starting out, and without the
|> incubator, it doesn't appear that Apache has that.
| Thanks Angie, yes your perspective is very interesting, and I hope it's
| already in line with what folks are thinking.
| I think Davanum's subject line was mostly a rant w.r.t. the Maven issue
| and not really a commentary on having an incubation process for podlings.
| At least, I hope it was ;-)  The mixed results that came out of Jakarta
| and others proved long ago that we needed /something/.  I think we are
| awfully close right now, but it is (and always will be) based on the
| then-current collection of volunteers and mentors.  Today we are doing
| better than I had hoped :)
| Bill
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