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From "Philippe Ombredanne" <pombreda...@nexb.com>
Subject RE: Installers for couchdb
Date Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:13:18 GMT
> Doesn't requiring a library with an excluded license pretty much throw
> the apache license part out the window?  Are these optional
> dependencies?  Will couchdb run at all without them?
As far I know yes. 

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Cheers
Philippe

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jcarman@carmanconsulting.com 
> [mailto:jcarman@carmanconsulting.com] On Behalf Of James Carman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:41 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Installers for couchdb
> 
> 
> Doesn't requiring a library with an excluded license pretty much throw
> the apache license part out the window?  Are these optional
> dependencies?  Will couchdb run at all without them?
> 
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Craig L Russell 
> <Craig.Russell@sun.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Philippe Ombredanne wrote:
> >
> >> Howdy:
> >> I am working on couchdb installers that I would like to 
> contribute back to
> >> the project:
> >> A fully functional CouchDb install has a few external 
> dependencies such
> >> as:
> >> - ICU (ICU License a BSD/MIT style license)
> >> - Mozilla SpiderMonkey (MPL, GPL or LGPL)
> >> - Erlang (ERLANG PUBLIC LICENSE)
> >> - Openssl (OpenSSL license, a BSD style license)
> >>
> >> My understanding is that it would not be acceptable 
> IP-clearance wise to
> >> have all (though some may be) those bits shipped as part 
> of all-inclusive
> >> installers.
> >
> > That's my understanding of the current consensus as well.
> >>
> >>
> >> My request:
> >> Would it be acceptable to create installers that would 
> fetch at install
> >> time
> >> the required external bits from their original download locations?
> >> Those fetch operations would be clearly presented as external fetch
> >> operationsto the users.
> >
> > I think the current operative policy is from
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html:
> >        . For add-ons under excluded licenses, the PMC may provide a
> > link/reference on the product web site or within product 
> documentation to
> > some other web site that hosts such add-ons (e.g. a SF.net 
> project or some
> > third-party site dedicated to distributing add-ons for the 
> Apache product)
> > as long as it is made clear to users that the host site is 
> not part of the
> > Apache product nor endorsed by the ASF.
> >        . For add-ons under excluded licenses, the PMC may 
> include a feature
> > within the product that allows the user to obtain 
> third-party add-ons if the
> > feature also alerts the user of the associated license and 
> makes clear to
> > users that the host site is not part of the Apache product 
> nor endorsed by
> > the ASF.
> >
> > So as long as your installer makes it clear to the user 
> that the external
> > bits are not Apache-licensed, I read the policy as allowing 
> the CouchDb
> > installer to fetch and install them and thereby make them 
> available to the
> > CouchDb user.
> >
> > Craig
> >>
> >> Cordially
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers
> >> Philippe
> >>
> >> philippe ombredanne | 1 650 799 0949 | pombredanne at nexb.com
> >> nexB - Open by Design (tm) - http://www.nexb.com
> >> http://easyeclipse.org - http://phpeclipse.net - 
> http://eclipse.org/atf -
> >> http://eclipse.org/vep - http://labs.jboss.org/drools/ -
> >> http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XULRunner
> >>
> >>
> >> 
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> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System 
> http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
> > 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> > P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
> >
> >
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