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From "Justin Erenkrantz" <jus...@erenkrantz.com>
Subject INCUBATOR-57 aka IPMC votes to ratify PPMC committers
Date Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:29:15 GMT
Currently on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html, we have:
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Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the
Incubator private list. The notice is a separate email forwarding the
vote email with a cover statement that this vote is underway on the
podling's private list. Many consider this approach to be best
practice. After completing the vote on the PPMC list, the proposer
calls a vote on the Incubator PMC private list, summarizing the
discussion and vote, with a reference to the archived discussion and
vote threads by the PPMC. The Incubator vote is done even if there are
three +1 votes from Incubator PMC members during the PPMC vote, in
order to give all Incubator PMC members a chance to express their
support or disapproval after seeing the PPMC discussion and vote
results. Note that only the Incubator PMC members can see the
Incubator private discussion, and the podling's Mentors should review
all Incubator PMC feedback with the PPMC. Moreover, only Apache
members may review the private PPMC list (this is normally not an
issue since most Incubator PMC members are Apache members).
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I'd like to make the suggestion that we alter this to:
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Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the
Incubator private list. The notice is a separate email forwarding the
vote email with a cover statement that this vote is underway on the
podling's private list. Many consider this approach to be best
practice. After completing the vote on the PPMC list, the proposer
*sends a note to* the Incubator PMC private list, summarizing the
discussion and vote, with a reference to the archived discussion and
vote threads by the PPMC.  *Any member of the Incubator PMC can ACK
the receipt of the vote.  This starts a 72-hour window for lazy
consensus.  After 72 hours and no requests by any Incubator PMC member
for a full vote by the Incubator PMC, the committer request is
approved by the Incubator PMC and the PPMC can start the committer
invitation process.*
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This intentionally follows the procedure for adding a PMC member wrt
full ASF board.  I like the concept of expanding this for committers
as well for Incubation, so there.  I don't like needless 'dual
voting', but I do want the IPMC to have the chance to execute
oversight.

WDYT?    -- justin

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