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From "Niall Pemberton" <niall.pember...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Hama proposal, was: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
Date Wed, 14 May 2008 15:47:26 GMT
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Jeff Eastman
<jeastman@windwardsolutions.com> wrote:
>
> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Edward J. Yoon <edward@udanax.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Oh, Sorry for our carelessness.
> > >  We clearly overlooked the mention of the champion/mentor
> qualifications.
> > >
> > >
> > >  > can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF
> > >  > members?  Maybe you meant committers?
> > >
> > >  I have amended it as follows:
> > >   "initial set of Hama committers"
> > >
> > >
> > >  > Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member.  Not sure
> > >  > any of your proposed mentors are.  If they're Apache members,
> > >  > they can just ask to become IPMC members.
> > >
> > >  They'are Apache members, but not a member of Incubator PMC.
> > >  Then, I wonder whether this proposal should be continued without
> > >  champion/mentors.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Ian Holsman is an Apache member and can become a member of the
> > Incubator PMC by simply sending a request to the Incubator PMC chair.
> > Jeff doesn't appear to be an Apache member
> >
> > Niall
> >
> >
> >
> > >  -Edward
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Edward J. Yoon <edward@udanax.org>
> wrote:
> > >  > > Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member.  Not sure
> > >  > > any of your proposed mentors are.  If they're Apache members,
> > >  > > they can just ask to become IPMC members.
> > >  >
> > >  > Oh... Thank you for your advice.
> > >  > Then, Should we ask to become IPMC members before mentoring and delay
> the vote?
> > >  >
> > >  > Edward
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Thilo Goetz <twgoetz@gmx.de> wrote:
> > >  > > Edward J. Yoon wrote:
> > >  > > [...]
> > >  > > > == Core Developers ==
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > The initial set of committers includes folks from the
> > >  > > > [http://hadoop.apache.org Hadoop] &
> [http://hadoop.apache.org/hbase
> > >  > > > Hbase] communities. We have varying degrees of experience with
> > >  > > > Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to
ASF
> > >  > > > Members.
> > >  > > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Hi Edward,
> > >  > >
> > >  > > can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF
> > >  > > members?  Maybe you meant committers?
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member.  Not sure
> > >  > > any of your proposed mentors are.  If they're Apache members,
> > >  > > they can just ask to become IPMC members.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > HTH,
> > >  > > Thilo
> >
>  Actually, I'm a (recent) committer on the Mahout project. As such, I do not
> have much familiarity with the mechanics of being a champion but I'm willing
> to learn.

OK but I think you're mis-understanding - committer is not the same as
member of the ASF:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html

http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion

Niall

>  Jeff
>  jeastman at apache dot org

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