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From Jeff Eastman <jeast...@windwardsolutions.com>
Subject Re: Hama proposal, was: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
Date Wed, 14 May 2008 15:56:44 GMT
Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Jeff Eastman
> <jeastman@windwardsolutions.com> wrote:
>   
>> Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Edward J. Yoon <edward@udanax.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Oh, Sorry for our carelessness.
>>>>  We clearly overlooked the mention of the champion/mentor
>>>>         
>> qualifications.
>>     
>>>>  > can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF
>>>>  > members?  Maybe you meant committers?
>>>>
>>>>  I have amended it as follows:
>>>>   "initial set of Hama committers"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  > Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member.  Not sure
>>>>  > any of your proposed mentors are.  If they're Apache members,
>>>>  > they can just ask to become IPMC members.
>>>>
>>>>  They'are Apache members, but not a member of Incubator PMC.
>>>>  Then, I wonder whether this proposal should be continued without
>>>>  champion/mentors.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Ian Holsman is an Apache member and can become a member of the
>>> Incubator PMC by simply sending a request to the Incubator PMC chair.
>>> Jeff doesn't appear to be an Apache member
>>>
>>> Niall
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>>  -Edward
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Edward J. Yoon <edward@udanax.org>
>>>>         
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>>  > > Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member.  Not sure
>>>>  > > any of your proposed mentors are.  If they're Apache members,
>>>>  > > they can just ask to become IPMC members.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Oh... Thank you for your advice.
>>>>  > Then, Should we ask to become IPMC members before mentoring and delay
>>>>         
>> the vote?
>>     
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Edward
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Thilo Goetz <twgoetz@gmx.de>
wrote:
>>>>  > > Edward J. Yoon wrote:
>>>>  > > [...]
>>>>  > > > == Core Developers ==
>>>>  > > >
>>>>  > > > The initial set of committers includes folks from the
>>>>  > > > [http://hadoop.apache.org Hadoop] &
>>>>         
>> [http://hadoop.apache.org/hbase
>>     
>>>>  > > > Hbase] communities. We have varying degrees of experience
with
>>>>  > > > Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to
ASF
>>>>  > > > Members.
>>>>  > > >
>>>>  > >
>>>>  > > Hi Edward,
>>>>  > >
>>>>  > > can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF
>>>>  > > members?  Maybe you meant committers?
>>>>  > >
>>>>  > > Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member.  Not sure
>>>>  > > any of your proposed mentors are.  If they're Apache members,
>>>>  > > they can just ask to become IPMC members.
>>>>  > >
>>>>  > > HTH,
>>>>  > > Thilo
>>>>         
>>  Actually, I'm a (recent) committer on the Mahout project. As such, I do not
>> have much familiarity with the mechanics of being a champion but I'm willing
>> to learn.
>>     
>
> OK but I think you're mis-understanding - committer is not the same as
> member of the ASF:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion
>
> Niall
>
>   
>>  Jeff
>>  jeastman at apache dot org
>>     
>
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Yes, we were both confused by that distinction. My apologies.
Jeff


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