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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: maven repository
Date Fri, 30 May 2008 17:24:39 GMT
On 30/05/2008, Les Hazlewood <les@hazlewood.com> wrote:
> My proposed solution:
>
>  1.  A podling could not issue a release until after IP issues have
>  been cleared by the IPMC.
>  2.  Once a podling's release has been approved (which includes IP
>  approval), they would release to the central maven repository under
>  the group id org.apache.incubator.podlingname, enabling easy adoption
>  by end users.
>
>  Having the word 'incubator' in the group id conforms to repo
>  conventions matching domain names thereby not surprising any
>  end-users, and also explicitly requires the developer editing the pom
>  or ivy config to visually recognize it is _not_ an ASF TLP.  Because
>  they explicitly manually include the word 'incubator', they know its
>  not an official ASF endorsed project.

Assuming that the meaning of "Incubator" is well understood - which
may not be the case.

Also, then a non-incubator project uses the incubator project as a dependency.
This hides the incubator dependency - no thank you!

>  On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:16 PM, James Carman
>
> <james@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>  > So, let's define the goals here:
>  >
>  > 1.  The ASF would like folks who want to use incubating projects to do
>  > so knowingly somehow.  This is somewhat of a CYA tactic so that people
>  > are acknowledging "yes, I understand this is not an 'official' ASF
>  > project, but I'd like to use it anyway."
>  > 2.  Incubating projects would like to be able to get releases in front
>  > of people so that they can build their community.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Les Hazlewood <les@hazlewood.com> wrote:
>  >> Hrm - I thought you had to have IP clearance before you even were
>  >> accepted as a podling.  Or maybe its just that Alan is such a great
>  >> Champion for us, that he helped us along that path before we even
>  >> submitted our proposal ;)
>  >>
>  >> Under this assumption (that IP clearance exists already), it makes
>  >> much more sense to allow the podling to publish approved releases to
>  >> the central repository, but still under an
>  >> org.apache.incubator.projectname group id to maintain
>  >> convention/simplicity.
>  >>
>  >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:38 AM, James Carman
>  >> <james@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>  >>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Jeremy Haile <jhaile@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
>  >>>> So it seems that a valid question is whether or not publishing to one
>  >>>> repository or another indicates an endorsement.
>  >>>
>  >>> Yes, that's certainly a valid question.  Again, that's just my
>  >>> personal point of view.
>  >>>
>  >>> The biggest problem with incubator projects (again my opinion) having
>  >>> releases is the IP clearance.  Perhaps there should be multiple stages
>  >>> of incubation.  The first stage should be where you verify the IP
>  >>> clearance and projects in that stage shouldn't be allowed to do
>  >>> releases at all.  Then they might graduate to the next stage and that
>  >>> would be a "community building" stage where we make sure the project
>  >>> has enough community around it.  These projects should be able to
>  >>> provide incubating releases.
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