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From "ant elder" <ant.el...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Graduate Tuscany as a top level project
Date Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:22:42 GMT
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:24 AM, ant elder <ant.elder@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:47 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. <
> wrowe@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
>
> >  On Sunday 13 April 2008 19:30, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
> > >
> > > > IMHO the emphasis on committer affiliation is misguided. overloading
> > > > the word diversity was also probably a mistake. maybe we need to
> > > > focus
> > > > on narrower concepts with alternative names.
> > > >
> > > > 1. the incubator should be concerned about the composition of the
> > > > proposed PMC.
> > > >
> > >
> > Only that the community will be welcoming to newcomers and not treat the
> > ASF community-project as the "company's private project"; e.g. stdcxx is
> > largely one company, yet and still they brought across 2 mentors (Justin
> > and myself) to ensure we continue to foster community with the stdcxx
> > user community.  A good c++ programmer/open source library user is
> > always
> > a potential patch contributor, more akin to apr, and very unlike httpd,
> > and we see those users to become potential contributors.
> >
> > Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > Also, my personal and highly subjective interpretation of the (if
> > > present) intent around diversity boils down to one scenario;
> > >
> > > * A company pulls the plug for paid developers - will the project
> > > survive?
> > >
> >
> > Actually I think we are far too obsessed with the prospects of letting
> > a given project or podling die.  So the project passes into lethargy
> > and it's time ends, what's really so "negative" about that?  We don't
> > hold committers to the grindstone, why should we treat employer
> > sponsored
> > committers any differently?
> >
> >  So, for the case of Tuscany; I am satisfied with the diversity goal,
> > > and encourage Tuscany community with the aid of Mentors to move for
> > > graduation.
> > >
> >
> > ++1
> >
>
> So it seems like there is better support for Tuscany graduation now, are
> there any other issues or concerns anyone would like to bring up before we
> do make another attempt?
>
>    ...ant
>
>
FYI, we've now started the tuscany-dev vote for doing this:
http://apache.markmail.org/message/6bduwmwuhntbjafu

   ...ant

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