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From "ant elder" <ant.el...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Graduate Tuscany as a top level project
Date Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:24:03 GMT
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:47 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. <wrowe@rowe-clan.net>
wrote:

> On Sunday 13 April 2008 19:30, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
> >
> > > IMHO the emphasis on committer affiliation is misguided. overloading
> > > the word diversity was also probably a mistake. maybe we need to focus
> > > on narrower concepts with alternative names.
> > >
> > > 1. the incubator should be concerned about the composition of the
> > > proposed PMC.
> > >
> >
> Only that the community will be welcoming to newcomers and not treat the
> ASF community-project as the "company's private project"; e.g. stdcxx is
> largely one company, yet and still they brought across 2 mentors (Justin
> and myself) to ensure we continue to foster community with the stdcxx
> user community.  A good c++ programmer/open source library user is always
> a potential patch contributor, more akin to apr, and very unlike httpd,
> and we see those users to become potential contributors.
>
> Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> >
>
> > Also, my personal and highly subjective interpretation of the (if
> > present) intent around diversity boils down to one scenario;
> >
> > * A company pulls the plug for paid developers - will the project
> > survive?
> >
>
> Actually I think we are far too obsessed with the prospects of letting
> a given project or podling die.  So the project passes into lethargy
> and it's time ends, what's really so "negative" about that?  We don't
> hold committers to the grindstone, why should we treat employer sponsored
> committers any differently?
>
>  So, for the case of Tuscany; I am satisfied with the diversity goal, and
> > encourage Tuscany community with the aid of Mentors to move for graduation.
> >
>
> ++1
>

So it seems like there is better support for Tuscany graduation now, are
there any other issues or concerns anyone would like to bring up before we
do make another attempt?

   ...ant

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