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( [66.31.154.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 36sm4182215agc.9.2008.03.21.07.50.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47E3CB29.7080509@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:50:17 -0400 From: Davanum Srinivas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Statements from Qpid mentors would help me decide... [WAS Re: [VOTE] Apache Qpid Graduation as TLP] References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I agree with Robert, I'd prefer to wait a bit to see the community grow. Yes, it's a subjective call. No, not enough for a -1....So my vote would be a -0. thanks, dims Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: | On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: |> Qpid entered into the incubator November 2006, and has made releases, is |> in the |> process of closing down another minor release and well on the way to the |> next |> major release, added new committers, and cleaned up Karma prior to |> graduation |> vote. |> |> At this point the Apache Qpid community with support from its mentors |> feels that |> it is ready to graduate to an official top level project at Apache | | i'm a little bit in two minds about this... | | i have lurked on the list from time-to-time and have been impressed. i | think that TLP is the right destination and that QPID will be an good | addition one day. | | but another voice asks: are they really ready today? has the IPMC | fully equipped them for the chanlleges ahead? do they really | understand how to mentor new independent developers into committers | and PMCers? is the diversity sufficient to have learnt how to have | disagreements on technical matters whilst retaining community spirit? | | right or wrong, i'm not completely convinced right now... | | - robert | | --------------------------------------------------------------------- | To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org | For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Cygwin) iD8DBQFH48spgNg6eWEDv1kRAlSpAKCX9Oe9YUZgTKpHMiGySeYz2++QsACgxsBU E7OaHaEflqDvVIJXQpCYfzw= =IOZy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org