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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Apache Abdera 0.4.0-incubating (updated)
Date Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:59:43 GMT
On 31/03/2008, Dan Diephouse <dan.diephouse@mulesource.com> wrote:
> sebb wrote:
>  >
>  >>  > The NOTICE file is for required attribtions ONLY (e.g. as per an About
box)
>  >>  > There's really no need to repeat ASF for each project used by Abdera.
>  >>  >
>  >>
>  >> Having too much information in the NOTICE files is not a crime. The
>  >>  Maven remote-resources plugin aggregates all this stuff for us so we
>  >>  never miss any notice that we need to put in.
>  >>
>  >
>  > Unfortunately the plugin generates incorrect information.
>  >
>
> It does NOT generate incorrect information. It simply generates extra
>  attributions for all the ASF projects we reuse.
>
> > It *is* a problem having all the redundant information.
>  >
>  > See for example:
>  >
>  > http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html
>  > also
>  > http://wiki.apache.org/legal/3party/notice
>  > http://wiki.apache.org/legal/3party/notice/discuss
>  >
>
> It says "should" not requires w.r.t. the mandatory license attributions.
>  Once again, I maintain that this is not a problem.
>
>
>  >>> -1: The LICENSE files need to either contain copies of the 3rd party
>  >>>
>  >>  > licenses, or they need to have a reference to the 3rd party licences.
>  >>  > Equally, there is no need for the lib directory to contain copies of
>  >>  > the AL for every ASF product.
>  >>  >
>  >>
>  >> Why does the LICENSE file need to have a copy of all the other licenses?
>  >>  These are contained in the lib/ directory like many other ASF projects.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >
>  > See the last paragraph of:
>  >
>  > http://www.apache.org/dev/apply-license.html#new
>  >
>  >
>
> "or at least put a pointer in the LICENSE file to the third-party
>  license" - which we in the NOTICE file.
>

But they need to go in the LICENSE file, see:

http://www.apache.org/dev/apply-license.html#new

>  There is not a legal requirement here that it must be in the LICENSE
>  file itself - if so, please point me to the place in the license. This
>  is page is to provide "guidance" (see the first sentence), not be the
>  ultimate authority on what exactly is legally permissible for distributions.
>
>   If you look at many other ASF projects in the incubator and outside,
>  you'll see that this is not an enforced policy - this is simply telling
>  developers one way to get started here.
>
>
>  Dan
>
>  --
>  Dan Diephouse
>  MuleSource
>  http://mulesource.com | http://netzooid.com
>
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