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From Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
Subject Re: FW: (qpid) Diversity
Date Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:14:02 GMT

Another option would be to not consider the people that cannot disclose 
their employers when considering the diversity of the project.   If 
there are 15 people, and 5 cannot disclose their employer, only consider 
the diversity of the remaining people.   

Kind of the "err on the side of caution" approach.   It may make it 
harder for a project to be "diverse enough", but I'm not sure if that's 
actually a bad thing.

There is probably still an issue if a very large number of people on the 
project fall into the "cannot disclose" list.  I would hope that isn't 
the case though.

Dan

On Wednesday 05 March 2008, sebb wrote:
> On 05/03/2008, Roland Weber <ossfwot@dubioso.net> wrote:
> > Marnie McCormack wrote:
> >  > All,
> >  >
> >  > Several of our project (Qpid) memebers are legally in a difficult
> >  > position disclosing their employer in Apache world.
> >
> > Does that mean they are contributing in their private time rather
> >  than as part of their jobs? If so, they should be considered as
> >  independents. If contributing to the project is part of their job
> >  responsibilities, they should be required to disclose the employer.
>
> If the actual employers cannot be disclosed, perhaps it would be
> possible to list the different companies anonymously?
>
> e.g.
> Company 1 employs Adrian, Barbara, Cedric
> Company 2 employs Peter, Quentin, Rick
>
> This might help with determining diversity.
>
> >  > They have signed a legal
> >  > document, in order to be allowed to contribute to Apache, and
> >  > thus this is not a simple preference issue.
> >
> > My own employer's requirements are something like "must not create
> >  the impression to act on behalf of the employer". It doesn't say
> >  "is not allowed to disclose the employer". A statement like
> >  "independent contributor, working for XXX in the day job"
> >  would satisfy that.
> >  If it's just one or two of that category, I wouldn't care about
> >  the employer at all. But previous postings suggest that a lot of
> >  people are working for the same employer, and that's something
> >  that should be clarified. Maybe it's a club of spare time
> > developers that met at work and are now jointly working on Qpid?
> >
> >  cheers,
> >
> >    Roland
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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J. Daniel Kulp
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