Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 72078 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2008 15:56:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Feb 2008 15:56:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 63837 invoked by uid 500); 17 Feb 2008 15:56:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 63330 invoked by uid 500); 17 Feb 2008 15:56:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 63319 invoked by uid 99); 17 Feb 2008 15:56:51 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:56:51 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of justin.erenkrantz@gmail.com designates 64.233.166.178 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.166.178] (HELO py-out-1112.google.com) (64.233.166.178) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:56:19 +0000 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so1754902pyi.13 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:56:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=9Y5Jc47vhcoEwIdX1IBOQTWawzicg2zoCvtgL/Dl9FA=; b=tHR8Th6leQjkSWKBup/kpMX9uP02AlTfl4bB7HpIsS/rVXW3581J7hSCDTxq4mzpeJ4XqGa6vJiGwAsT6ENy/d2nPmFPDarffWE1z6lRB0VUenbF2pQnsCz3Rszd+cGac+wReeEol6Lmq019W811p1amZazaGmBADaw66OIA0qk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=tife7kiPsIAfNWRZheFPptesNAEmUw8b/m8ZkYcy/ynrPn99d+mRXPz1Xy34aVvo9Z0EVJUg+kk737eUVzzJWG5yr9lcZF+Jr7JsUTkR65k9JGXrUwP2qJXAw80s3MS4jvs2VBd32mDxKx+OaQ0YTXzgJ7WxBVxkQfRdf6NEILE= Received: by 10.142.103.6 with SMTP id a6mr3656016wfc.109.1203263786998; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.174.10 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:56:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5c902b9e0802170756q3ae203a3t8ef497552cba5de6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:56:26 -0800 From: "Justin Erenkrantz" Sender: justin.erenkrantz@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Subversion vs other source control systems In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1202989059.22816.58.camel@marlow> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d8694e11295ec0cf X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Feb 17, 2008 7:51 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > But visibility of the content and process very much IS part of "the Apache Way." > > Most of the use cases mentioned so far for git, including some where people are using it on top of SVN with ASF projects, run counter to ASF principles. It is *NOT* in our best interests and practices for people to work in private on bulk code, and periodically submit big changes. We want those changes made in public view in Subversion branches where the Community can see the work in progress, not when it is complete. We need to reeducate people who believe otherwise. > > That said, I am not saying that people can't use whatever SVN client(s) they want to use. I am saying that (a) the ASF has a uniform source control infrastructure, which is currently based on SVN servers, and (b) our practices mean that development is done in public, not done in private and submitted en masse as a fait accompli. These statements are independent of the SCM technology used by the ASF. +1. -- justin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org