Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 93175 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2008 22:15:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 13 Feb 2008 22:15:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 78509 invoked by uid 500); 13 Feb 2008 22:15:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 78345 invoked by uid 500); 13 Feb 2008 22:15:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 78332 invoked by uid 99); 13 Feb 2008 22:15:42 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:15:42 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.43.132] (HELO sca-es-mail-1.sun.com) (192.18.43.132) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:15:10 +0000 Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1DMFIHq029707 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JW700F016IEV000@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for general@incubator.apache.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.241.238] ([192.18.41.196]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JW700K73751AN30@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for general@incubator.apache.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:15:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:15:00 -0800 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Re-election of podling committers before graduation In-reply-to: Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: general@incubator.apache.org Message-id: <5D595460-3F4A-472C-93A7-62EDE0081C98@SUN.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-13--852082122 References: <47B07EF7.3070103@rowe-clan.net> <88A840D6-CB48-41BF-8C90-58359EB9DEDC@SUN.com> <200802131703.55972.niclas@hedhman.org> <47B2DE01.1050209@rowe-clan.net> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-13--852082122 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Feb 13, 2008, at 1:38 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Feb 13, 2008 1:09 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. > wrote: > >> ... In projects where commit is handed out with ease, and that >> commit is >> never used, at some point it should be reviewed (and this should >> happen >> BEFORE graduation, as a precondition of graduation, not as a trigger >> upon graduation).... > > Agree with this, and this is similar to what I was initially > suggesting. > > Several of us in this thread think that this review of commit rights > should not be a re-election as initially suggested, but rather a > process that the podling mentors can run as they see fit: maybe not at > all if all committers are obviously active, by election if desired, or > in any suitable way. > > Do people agree on leaving this up to podling mentors, and requiring > that they report on this commit rights review in the podling's > graduation request? I definitely think it's a mentor-driven process that deserves a sentence in the graduation request, right along side "meritocracy" and "independent committers". Craig > > > -Bertrand > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? 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