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From Santiago Gala <sg...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Subversion vs other source control systems
Date Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:05:51 GMT

El jue, 14-02-2008 a las 14:45 +0100, Jochen Wiedmann escribió:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Erik Abele <erik@codefaktor.de> wrote:
> 
> >  Aye, and this is also the reason why it potentially conflicts with
> >  the meritocratic model of the ASF; furthermore there are also legal
> >  hurdles to cross etc.
> >
> >  In the end I think it's simply too early to discuss all this - let's
> >  wait until some project comes up with a well-prepared and clearly
> >  defined proposal to change their SCM. IMHO this is certainly not a
> >  task for the Incubator or a podling...
> 
> Agreed. It's better to wait. Also note, that:
> 
> - For obvious reasons, git and other distributed VC systems are more suited
>   for larger projects with a real lot of contributors. Even in the case of the
>   top level projects, there aren't too many that qualify for that.

I don't see the "obvious reasons", of course excepting much better
performance of git. I mostly use bazaar for small projects, for instance
put /etc of a group of servers under version control, and have the
ability to commit remote configuration changes and then push to/pull
from the remote server. I think the smaller management overhead of
bazaar or git makes it easier than having to set up and protect svn
server and repositories.

> - Even now, it is possible to work with git, if you want to: See
> 
>     http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/maven-dev/200709.mbox/%3C1B829E89-25ED-446D-B31D-A881692F949B@maven.org%3E
> 
>   I do not know how far Jason van Zyl's attempts have grown or not,

He is making basically the same points I tried to make, and with a lot
of enthusiasm too... I hope this will help convincing people to try any
of the tools.


> but the point
>   is that his intentions have been to gather experience. Anyone else is free to
>   do the same.


Well, I answered to Noel's:
> No, there was no vote and is not vote, nor is there any choice.
> Subversion is one of the few things that the Board has mandated,
> imposed on all projects.  Period.  Pretty much end of discussion.

because he was clearly implying that no, nobody is free to do the same.
Now at least I see that I'm not alone here. And hopefully people in
podlings will see that we are a bit less uniform and bureaucratic than
they were fearing. :)

Regards
Santiago

> 
> Jochen
> 
> 



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