Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 75079 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2008 21:51:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 30 Jan 2008 21:51:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 26872 invoked by uid 500); 30 Jan 2008 21:51:10 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 26746 invoked by uid 500); 30 Jan 2008 21:51:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 26732 invoked by uid 99); 30 Jan 2008 21:51:10 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:51:10 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of cctrieloff@redhat.com designates 66.187.233.31 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.187.233.31] (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (66.187.233.31) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:50:43 +0000 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0ULonKF021908 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:50:49 -0500 Received: from mail.boston.redhat.com (mail.boston.redhat.com [172.16.76.12]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m0ULonRr015738 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:50:49 -0500 Received: from [172.16.83.23] (dhcp83-23.boston.redhat.com [172.16.83.23]) by mail.boston.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m0ULonmZ001489 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:50:49 -0500 Message-ID: <47A0F210.5050506@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:54:24 -0500 From: Carl Trieloff Reply-To: cctrieloff@redhat.com Organization: Red Hat User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060913) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: "Binding" term References: <9E93D575-BDDA-4505-A20E-92B69CCE335B@SUN.com> In-Reply-To: <9E93D575-BDDA-4505-A20E-92B69CCE335B@SUN.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.52.254 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Craig L Russell wrote: > I think it's confusing people to use the term "binding" in different > contexts. I'd like to propose that the term is only used to refer to > decisions/votes that are binding on The Apache Software Foundation, > which means decisions/votes made by a duly authorized PMC. > > In particular, the following text implies that a PPMC has a "binding" > voice: > > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases > > "Therefore, should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, > the Podling SHALL hold a vote on the Podling's public -dev list. At > least three +1 votes are required (see the Apache Voting Process > page), and only the PPMC member votes are binding. If the majority of > all votes is positive, then the Podling SHALL send a summary of that > vote to the Incubator's general list and formally request the > Incubator PMC approve such a release. Three +1 Incubator PMC votes are > required. Below is an example showing how an incubating project > managed this process:" > > I'd prefer if the text "only the PPMC member votes are binding" were > changed to "only the PPMC member votes are counted". > > Better still, simply remove the entire text ", and only the PPMC > member votes are binding". > > Craig Russell > Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo > 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com > P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! > Agree with Craig, the text above took me a while to work out what was going and because PPMC votes are 'not' binding only IPMC votes are in the incubator. Carl. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org