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From Carl Trieloff <>
Subject Re: "Binding" term
Date Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:54:24 GMT
Craig L Russell wrote:
> I think it's confusing people to use the term "binding" in different 
> contexts. I'd like to propose that the term is only used to refer to 
> decisions/votes that are binding on The Apache Software Foundation, 
> which means decisions/votes made by a duly authorized PMC.
> In particular, the following text implies that a PPMC has a "binding" 
> voice:
> "Therefore, should a Podling decide it wishes to perform a release, 
> the Podling SHALL hold a vote on the Podling's public -dev list. At 
> least three +1 votes are required (see the Apache Voting Process 
> page), and only the PPMC member votes are binding. If the majority of 
> all votes is positive, then the Podling SHALL send a summary of that 
> vote to the Incubator's general list and formally request the 
> Incubator PMC approve such a release. Three +1 Incubator PMC votes are 
> required. Below is an example showing how an incubating project 
> managed this process:"
> I'd prefer if the text "only the PPMC member votes are binding" were 
> changed to "only the PPMC member votes are counted".
> Better still, simply remove the entire text ", and only the PPMC 
> member votes are binding".
> Craig Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System
> 408 276-5638
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

Agree with Craig, the text above took me a while to work out what was 
going and because PPMC votes are 'not' binding only IPMC votes are in 
the incubator.


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