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From Niclas Hedhman <>
Subject Re: moving a failed incubation project
Date Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:13:13 GMT
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 04:27, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> I agree with the general point about the legality of using the
> org.apache namespace. However, I think there is a significant issue
> here. People assume that org.apache code is from Apache. And the
> reasoning that its too much effort to rename is frankly wrong. Even
> sed could do a decent job and probably sort the problem out.

This is not black and white.

For instance, I have forked and heavily modified a couple of Apache projects 
to remain compatible but for operation in an OSGi environment. I can't change 
the namespace, since I have no control over the 1000s or more dependencies 
that may be many levels away from the "OSGi user". My own legal conclusion 
was that this case was within the legal requirement.

Noel keep pointing out that we are not authorized to give legal advice on 
behalf of the ASF, which is correct. My *personal* advice is to read the 
license very carefully, consult your own lawyer if appropriate, and draw 
conclusions. If in doubt, contact legal-discuss@a.o

For this case, I see little or no reason (as Paul points out) to keep the 
org.apache.tsik namespace.

Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer

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