From general-return-16782-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed Dec 19 06:36:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 90621 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2007 06:36:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 19 Dec 2007 06:36:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 29720 invoked by uid 500); 19 Dec 2007 06:36:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 29618 invoked by uid 500); 19 Dec 2007 06:36:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 29607 invoked by uid 99); 19 Dec 2007 06:36:28 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:36:28 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of bdelacretaz@gmail.com designates 72.14.202.180 as permitted sender) Received: from [72.14.202.180] (HELO ro-out-1112.google.com) (72.14.202.180) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:36:06 +0000 Received: by ro-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id o35so3704597rog.6 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:36:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=f0fXB5oKYlbi3XW+6H1ejCdhrXJRwCPyChMbRRuD8jA=; b=oo3U9TuN4tTaZ5nevK2DqaKpYchIBlO83SHUV/bY0ZdgYMHuew585+CfsHZZjbeDORVa0sFSYq87X4EpFsFIaO+nvSm45IeaDVnhHtm/HajM3q9zanreVGS+iy2wo2LXOdH0XySX5xnD8HgaNDLb/5ArzP/0XS0qgu35S6qOhaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=AlCRaA0jpqMe5X/qNX3hPYb5GDCIz5Cp3iuhAxEz0x/P+3lNSelJVh1VYnQ7/smsZpyb+d2mkfHTfNCMMqqirdji8Q6t7Yy+6x5PFvhGsyUBTaJXsH9YRdMG06jJwYmwPDf2cJv8dteYw9SU0t90OqytZ7A7BVd7As6NQHH1ki0= Received: by 10.114.120.1 with SMTP id s1mr4517610wac.125.1198046168948; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.176.9 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:36:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:36:08 +0100 From: "Bertrand Delacretaz" Sender: bdelacretaz@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org, bill@wstoddard.com Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] BlueSky Proposal In-Reply-To: <47685B38.6030203@wstoddard.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47685B38.6030203@wstoddard.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 852ec9757831ca3f X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Dec 19, 2007 12:43 AM, Bill Stoddard wrote: > ...I've updated the BlueSky project proposal. Ting Peng and Incubator PMC, > please review/update as needed and report back any concerns.... I have two concerns about http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BlueSky: > ...weekly development summary on this web site: > http://www.p12.edu.cn/ (Currently, only available in mainland of China)... I think we need a committment from the BlueSky team that all information and artifacts related to the project will be available worldwide. I know nothing about how things work in China in this respect, but having parts of the project segregated is not acceptable, IMHO. That might make some community members second-class citizens if they don't have access to everything. > ...Documentation > All in Chinese now... In the same vein, we need to make it very clear that all project-related communications have to happen in english on the ASF mailing lists and websites. I don't think the ASF would be able to provide the necessary oversight for anything happening in Chinese, just as we don't support other languages at the moment. Sorry if I sound negative, I agree that the goals of the project are important, but I also see a risk of creating a project that might live on its own island, with very little ties to the rest of the ASF. I'm not saying it's impossible, but IMHO we have to make sure that the necessary agreements are in place before going further. -Bertrand --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org