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From "Niall Pemberton" <niall.pember...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Move Project Yoko to Apache Geronimo and Apache CXF
Date Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:33:21 GMT
On Dec 11, 2007 4:09 PM, Davanum Srinivas <davanum@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'd say that the respective PMC's should fill up the IP Clearance form and treat the
incoming code just like any other
> new contribution to an existing project.

The way I see it theres two scenarios here:

1) CXF is incubating (i.e. no current PMC) and none of the Yoko
developers are interested in moving with the portion of code thats
going there. IMO its only going to get harder to complete this as time
goes by so better off getting it done asap.
2) With Geronimo even if/when this votes passes then they're still
going to need to complete the Incubator IP clearance process before
they can accept the code donation into their project.

I get the feeling that this vote is going to be taken as the approval
for moving the code to the two projects. It matters less for CXF since
they still have graduate - but for Geronimo then IMO it needs to be
clarified whether they are assuming this is all the approval they need
to take the code - or whether they are planning to go through an IP
clearance step after. If its the former then there needs to be a
statement here about IP clearance here first.

Niall

> thanks,
> dims
>
>
> Niall Pemberton wrote:
> > Links to the various relevant threads for anyone interested:
> >
> > Yoko Threads:
> >          http://tinyurl.com/2y4sy9
> >          http://tinyurl.com/2ffkn2
> >          http://tinyurl.com/2glch9
> >          http://tinyurl.com/2d94hw
> > Geronimo Discussion: http://tinyurl.com/2zr2bh
> > Geronimo Vote: http://tinyurl.com/2c8yuo
> > CXF Discussion / Vote: http://tinyurl.com/yr6wet
> >
> > I guess the question is has the appropriate incubator due-dilligence
> > been completed on the Yoko code? If not then wouldn't that need doing
> > before the code could move?
> >
> > Niall
> >
> > On Dec 11, 2007 3:26 AM, Matt Hogstrom <matt@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> >> Below is a proposal that was discussed and brought forward by the Yoko
> >> Community.  In a nutshell the proposal is to create a Yoko sub-project
> >> of Apache Geronimo for the Core ORB and to move the bindings to CXF.
> >> Please read the proposal below for all the detail.
> >>
> >> This proposal was brought forward to the Apache Geronimo and Apache
> >> CXF communities.  Both communities have voted to accept this proposal.
> >>
> >> Vote results from Apache Geronimo were 20 +1 votes and no 0 or -1
> >> votes.  17 were binding from the Geronimo PMC.
> >> CXF Results on the CF Dev list were 13 +1 votes and 1 0 vote
> >>
> >> I am now bringing this to the Incubator for final approval so that the
> >> code can be moved from Incubator to the respective receiving
> >> projects.  This proposal was previously sent to the IPMC for comment
> >> while the respective communities discussed and voted.  During that
> >> time there has been no comments that indicated there was an issue so I
> >> bring this vote back to the Incubator for finalization:
> >>
> >> [ ] +1 Approve the below proposal and code migration to Apache
> >> Geronimo and CXF respectively
> >> [ ]  0 No opinion
> >> [ ] -1 Do not approve of the move (please provide rationale
> >>
> >> If someone wants to comment on this thread please use the Alternate
> >> [DISCUSS] thread and not the vote thread.
> >>
> >> This vote will conclude on Dec 14th at 0900 ET.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Original Proposal
> >>
> >> The members of project yoko have been considering the future of Yoko
> >> as a project.  There have been several milestones delivered and the
> >> project is used by other ASF projects.   The project is not as active
> >> as other ASF projects and it makes sense to move the code from Yoko to
> >> other projects.  The Yoko team has the following proposal for your
> >> consideration.
> >>
> >> Proposed Code Donation from Project Yoko to Apache CXF and Apache
> >> Geronimo
> >>
> >> The Yoko community has been successful in delivering several
> >> milestones of the ORB implementation while in the Apache Incubator.
> >> These milestones are used by other Apache projects (namely Geronimo
> >> and Harmony) to support their releases.  The WebServices bindings are
> >> dependent on CXF.  The Yoko community has decided that the Yoko
> >> project does not have quite the momentum to carry itself as an
> >> independent project but has sufficient value for other projects for
> >> them to consider receiving the code and committers for that code-base
> >> as sub-projects.  Since the code under consideration is used by Apache
> >> Geronimo, Apache CXF and Apache Harmony the movement of the code
> >> should continue to allow for independent releases so the code can be
> >> easily shared with other dependent projects.
> >>
> >> The proposed division is:
> >>
> >> yoko-spec-corba - this is the org.omg interface classes.
> >> rmi-spec - this is the javax.rmi spec implementation
> >> core - This is the actual ORB implementation.
> >> rmi-impl - This is the implementation of the RMIIIOP support.
> >>
> >> These modules are also used by Harmony.
> >>
> >> In addition to the code we propose that the following committers in
> >> Apache Yoko be accepted as committers in Apache Geronimo given their
> >> demonstration of delivering code, creating releases and functioning as
> >> a community.  Those noted with asterisks are already Geronimo
> >> committers.
> >>
> >> Continued involvement with the core:
> >>
> >> Rick McGuire *
> >> David Jencks *
> >> Alan Cabrera  *
> >> Lars Kuhne
> >> Alexey Petrenko
> >> Darren Middleman
> >>
> >> The remainder of the modules in Yoko are part of the webservices
> >> support and are independent of the underlying ORB implementation.
> >>
> >> api -- interface classes used for the web services support.
> >> bindings -- code to implement the CORBA-Web services bindings.
> >> tools -- tools for generation WSDL and IDL for the bindings
> >> maven-plugin -- some maven plugins that can use the tools for
> >> generating binding-related build artifacts.  None of the maven-plugin
> >> code is used by the ORB.
> >>
> >> There is also a distribution directory with some sample applications.
> >> One set of samples demonstrates using the core ORB, the other set is
> >> for WebServices.  We recommend that the distribution directory should
> >> move to Apache CXF as the webservices examples use the orb samples to
> >> bind them as web services.  Since Apache Geronimo's only use of CORBA
> >> is for exporting EJBs, these samples are not particularly valuable for
> >> Geronimo.
> >>
> >> The Yoko community did not have any committers that expressed an
> >> interest in continuing work on these bindings.  As such, only the code
> >> would be moving to apache CXF.
> >>
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