From general-return-16631-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Thu Nov 29 00:56:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 89956 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2007 00:56:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Nov 2007 00:56:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 34221 invoked by uid 500); 29 Nov 2007 00:55:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 34104 invoked by uid 500); 29 Nov 2007 00:55:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 34093 invoked by uid 99); 29 Nov 2007 00:55:50 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:55:50 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy includes SPF record at spf.trusted-forwarder.org) Received: from [208.210.124.79] (HELO rune.pobox.com) (208.210.124.79) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:55:50 +0000 Received: from rune (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rune.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFCB165C70 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ufo.ninginc.com (ip65-46-253-50.z253-46-65.customer.algx.net [65.46.253.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by rune.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC80165C6E for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:55:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: Brian McCallister To: general@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: <405974.95739.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Shindig, an OpenSocial Container Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:54:58 -0800 References: <405974.95739.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Okay, am about to submit a VOTE email with the revised proposal. There are a couple major changes on the proposal. The biggest is the initial contributors and codebase. Google asked to be involved and offered to submit the initial implementation, which is a whole lot better than the one I pulled out of Ning so I think it is a great change. Additionally, folks from Hi5 and MySpace have been added to the proposal. -Brian On Nov 27, 2007, at 11:40 PM, Otis Gospodnetic wrote: > +1 -- my simpy.com might become a client soon. :) > > Otis > > -- > Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Brian McCallister > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 1:03:49 PM > Subject: [PROPOSAL] Shindig, an OpenSocial Container > > Shindig Proposal > -- > > = Abstract = > > Shindig will develop the container and backend server components > for hosting OpenSocial applications. > > = Proposal = > > Shindig will develop a JavaScript container and implementations of > the backend APIs and proxy required for hosting OpenSocial > applications. > > > = Background = > > OpenSocial provides a common set of APIs for social applications > across multiple websites. With standard JavaScript and HTML, > developers can create social applications that use a social network's > friends and update feeds. > > A social application, in this context, is an application run by a > third party provider and embedded in a web page, or web application, > which consumes services provided by the container and by the > application host. This is very similar to Portal/Portlet technology, > but is based on client-side compositing, rather than server. > > More information can be found about OpenSocial at > http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/ > > == Rationale == > > Shindig is an implementation of an emerging set of APIs for client- > side > composited web applications. The Apache Software Foundation has > proven to have developed a strong system and set of mores for > building community-centric, open standards based systems with a > wide variety of participants. > > A robust, community-developed implementation of these APIs will > encourage compatibility between service providers, ensure an excellent > implementation is available to everyone, and enable faster and > easier application development for users. > > The Apache Software Foundation has proven it is the best place for > this type of open development. > > > = Current Status = > > This is a new project. > > = Meritocracy = > > The initial developers are very familiar with meritocratic open > source development, both at Apache and elsewhere. Apache was chosen > specifically because the initial developers want to encourage this > style of development for the project. > > === Community === > > Shindig seeks to develop developer and user communities during > incubation. > > > = Core Developers = > > The initial core developers are all Ning employees. We hope to > expand this very quickly. > > = Alignment = > > The developers of Shindig want to work with the Apache Software > Foundation specifically because Apache has proven to provide a > strong foundation and set of practices for developing standards-based > infrastructure and server components. > > = Known Risks = > > == Orphaned products == > > Shindig is new development of an emerging set of APIs. > > == Inexperience with Open Source == > > The initial developers include long-time open source developers, > including Apache Members. > > == Homogenous Developers == > > The initial group of developers is quite homogenous. Remedying this > is a large part of why we want to bring the project to Apache. > > == Reliance on Salaried Developers == > > The initial group of developers are employed by a potential consumer > of the project. Remedying this is a large part of why we want to > bring the project to Apache. > > == Relationships with Other Apache Products == > > None in particular, except that Apache HTTPD is the best place to > run PHP, which the server-side components Ning intends to donate > have been implemented in. > > == A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand == > > We believe in the processes, systems, and framework Apache has put > in place. The brand is nice, but is not why we wish to come to > Apache. > > = Documentation = > > Google's OpenSocial Documentation: > http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/ > > Ning's OpenSocial Documentation: > http://tinyurl.com/3y5ckx > > = Initial Source = > > Ning, Inc. intends to donate code based on their implementation of > OpenSocial. The backend systems will be replaced with more generic > equivalents in order to not bind the implementation to specifics > of the Ning platform. > > This code will be extracted from Ning's internal development, and > has not been expanded on past the extraction. It will be provided > primarily as a starting place for a much more robust, community- > developed > implementation. > > = External Dependencies = > > The initial codebase relies on a library created by Google, Inc., > and licensed under the Apache Software License, Version 2.0. > > = Required Resources = > > Developer and user mailing lists > > A subversion repository > > A JIRA issue tracker > > = Initial Committers = > > Thomas Baker > Tim Williamson > Brian McCallister > Thomas Dudziak > Martin Traverso > > = Sponsors = > > == Champion == > > Brian McCallister > > == Nominated Mentors == > > Brian McCallister > Thomas Dudziak > Santiago Gala > Upayavira > > == Sponsoring Entity == > > The Apache Incubator. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org