From general-return-16500-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Thu Nov 15 17:01:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 1653 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2007 17:01:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Nov 2007 17:01:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 67666 invoked by uid 500); 15 Nov 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 67229 invoked by uid 500); 15 Nov 2007 17:01:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 67213 invoked by uid 99); 15 Nov 2007 17:01:26 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:01:26 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of luckbr1975@gmail.com designates 209.85.162.178 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.162.178] (HELO el-out-1112.google.com) (209.85.162.178) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:01:16 +0000 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id y26so272331ele for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:00:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=cl9AWFjF6pkRwwJWJuE9HgD+eefTNqwjOrQ0SMFoJFw=; b=k5GTRoBfdGoc61UlNNSypOqG4EW86YhEmLb/6leLYriGP66SriUHdyPKLi4u9Mhi5m6zVj/zBYJmDGkmL8leasl1/iv5T6UBICcd5mpW2CaDM4Os6urhDidEKtKyZUeB4vIe54bgI0tk8TYW+qnwyjSqtcI/bHk2ZojmdxSizfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b6p6XPSF1G77iqlcvroUl41D4i+qJd4CgEcWlwSu9mtz3RaTeAummN8SbUhXrV4cDIfa13nP9liEYRPG8vvQFZKP0AJEv9B/vH0V95uB8s7bVLB+RSi/LIBq6NvR8TQeavTxkZH2vs+edO5lWKwrPL8s6jJKI5FJQuQoDb5dR0w= Received: by 10.142.52.9 with SMTP id z9mr191294wfz.1195146049090; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.13.16 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:00:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5a75db780711150900k404d0a37vc12a4fb6477abc05@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:00:49 -0800 From: "Luciano Resende" To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Projects in trouble or otherwise needing help In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org My 0.02$ as well... Gilles's suggestion is a good one to try. In addition to that, I took a quick look at the XAP mailing list, and I guess that, Instead of creating tons of JIRAS, the committers could start sending a short e-mail describing the problem, or describing a new feature ? As a user, a descriptive e-mail would probably catch my attention much easier then a JIRA, and after you have the user attention, it's much easier to have the user engage on the discussion. Also, advertise, advertise, advertise... with blog, articles, posts on sites like serverside, infoQ, etc >It would help me if someone could help me understand how to make XAP >more appealing and interesting to the Apache community. Is the problem >that there are no good samples and demos? The website isn't good? >Nobody understands what the point is? Well, from a quick look, website, samples, etc looks good and interesting. On Nov 15, 2007 2:31 AM, Gilles Scokart wrote: > 2007/11/15, James Margaris : > > > > It would help me if someone could help me understand how to make XAP more > > appealing and interesting to the Apache community. Is the problem that there > > are no good samples and demos? The website isn't good? Nobody understands > > what the point is? > > > > Did you have enought users? I know, it is a chicken & eggs problem. But > you can maybe try to initiate the loop by devellopping some > features/plugin/extension for an existing product that has a wide > community. Propose patches using XAP to a popular project. If the > community of this project like it (and if it was the right community) they > will start to use it in their project and in other project. > > My 0.02$ > > -- > Gilles SCOKART > -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org