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From Lawrence Mandel <lman...@ca.ibm.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Community diversity: current concerns and suggestions for improvement
Date Sun, 18 Nov 2007 05:16:39 GMT
I'd like to echo Eelco's comments in their entirety replacing Wicket with 
Woden.

And, I'd like to add that I think 3 would significantly limit the number 
of new projects entering the incubator.

Lawrence




"Eelco Hillenius" <eelco.hillenius@gmail.com> 
11/17/2007 08:43 PM
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> 3) Limit the number of new non-ASF initial committers for incubating 
projects
> People who were not ASF committers but come in via a newly incubating
> project do not get their commit rights via the normal ASF meritocracy
> rules.
>
> We might want to limit the number of such commiters, to limit the
> number of people who get in via this "shortcut".
>
> The downside of such a limitation, as someone mentioned in
> discussions, is that getting new committers in this way is also an
> opportunity to "convert" more people to the ASF way.

If I think about Wicket, this limitation would have been a problem,
since at the time Wicket started incubation, only one of the team
members (of the 10+) was already involved an ASF committer.

I'm not sure what benefits such a rule would have. True, you don't
have much insight in how people of incubating projects got into the
project before incubation, but on the other hand, it shouldn't really
matter as the incubation is meant for coaching the project members
into the ASF way, or at least validating that they can behave in the
ASF way for the ASF projects concerned. I believe this should be
viewed entirely independent of what they do or have done in outside
projects. In other words, I believe ASF should only be concerned about
how ASF projects are affected.

Eelco

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