Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 54914 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2007 13:38:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 25 Oct 2007 13:38:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 48983 invoked by uid 500); 25 Oct 2007 13:37:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 48840 invoked by uid 500); 25 Oct 2007 13:37:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 48829 invoked by uid 99); 25 Oct 2007 13:37:48 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:37:48 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of kevan.miller@gmail.com designates 66.249.82.239 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.82.239] (HELO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.239) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:37:50 +0000 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h30so553205wxd for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:37:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=VPENW3zg9OLifi/Np4SgIRK0AZg9cd+LVaVZPXBOCQA=; b=ns6hqE3/YuQzXFPDi03yiUp+q9wNKwwljpHuk3KgTJfTbKG0rTpzKpev8zLrVE58ooEw6c/q8rQG1ju0ZAYiYrGhisLL53zX+aDZJoP+Lg9RFEruzXxJIjcdcZ/I1vfcCkPnNtj9MlznAIZ3/++3k/iZ2Q18QBil/6oH2g1VXXw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=tw77boUVMY0CKXSMgSob9GR2wkMKdRv0l77l3o8Y7ZtdzNzcquqPz53WreDZfZrCqAXcXZHF/4rgK3rtTBKBg1KgVfDhas3LymmIdya7byC/LslWohIQnwew90Tn8SoHEWtYHFb/jzzg1jOnuO3MbLANJG4SIkPPD6/IDKOicLs= Received: by 10.70.113.5 with SMTP id l5mr3021551wxc.1193319449369; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.1.200? ( [76.182.118.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h14sm2691766wxd.2007.10.25.06.37.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Kevan Miller Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:37:24 -0400 To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:59 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal has been stable for a > while now so i'd like to throw it open to final scrutiny before i call > for a VOTE. (please don't vote yet ;-) > > the name "RAT" has been discussed previously - see > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/ > 200710.mbox/% > 3cf470f68e0710031036x78001782u8ab12b6d61fde674@mail.gmail.com%3e. > RAT is a good name and popular but i'm still a little concerned that > there are existing open source projects named RAT as well as > commercial software containing RAT in their name. Apache aRAT has the > advantage of being unused but the disadvantage of being a common name > in some other languages. if anyone strongly disagrees with the > consensus that RAT is ok and prefers aRAT please jump in now. Looks good to me. As a RAT user, I look forward to improved RAT capabilities. There's the other side of the coin which I think communities need help with -- and that's tools to help simplify the building of legally compliant distributions. There's been some work with the maven-remote- resources-plugin, but that's fodder for another conversation... I like the name RAT. Can anybody give me guidance on how unique names need to be? For instance there's currently a vote to accept 'Apache Composer'. A simple search on 'composer open source' turns up a number of open source projects with 'composer' in their name (Violet Composer, Mozilla Composer, Eclipse EPF Composer). Should I have been more diligent in reviewing the Composer proposal? By comparison, RAT looks more unique... --kevan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org