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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:10:52 +0100
From: "Niall Pemberton" <niall.pemberton@gmail.com>
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Effects on corporate backing withdrawals [was: Incubator
 Proposal: Pig]
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On 9/25/07, Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@gmail.com> wrote:
> One of the purpose of the incubator is to ensure that there is a
> sustainable developer community, so I don't see failure of incubating
> projects as a real problem.

+1

Theres more of an issue IMO with projects that don't come thru the
incubator, since they don't have to meet the Incubator's stringent
graduation requirement. As an example - Tapestry was pushed out to a
TLP from Jakarta, but the following blog from a Tapestry committer
doesn't make good reading from a community PoV:

http://agileskills2.org/blog/2007/09/my_thoughts_on_the_differences.html

Niall

> On 9/25/07, Noel J. Bergman <noel@devtech.com> wrote:
> > Dims wrote:
> > > Niclas Hedhman asked:
> > > > Do we have any examples where corporate backing has been withdrawn, and
> > how
> > > > the project was affected, whether inside or outside ASF?
> > > TSIK -> Verisign folks lost interest, community did not form, project
> > shelved.
> >
> > Plus Kabuki, Heraldry, and possibly Lokahi.  We still hope to save the
> > latter, as there is consistently a lot of user interest, but the developer
> > input has dwindled, and we need developers!
> >
> >         --- Noel

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