Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 7290 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2007 05:23:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Sep 2007 05:23:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 33558 invoked by uid 500); 16 Sep 2007 05:23:38 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 33377 invoked by uid 500); 16 Sep 2007 05:23:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 33365 invoked by uid 99); 16 Sep 2007 05:23:38 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:23:38 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of for.svkrish@gmail.com designates 64.233.182.187 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.182.187] (HELO nf-out-0910.google.com) (64.233.182.187) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 05:23:37 +0000 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k4so972469nfd for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:23:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=AdxKPOiFXl1lsT3Z/ZPyoyeHmKpRf/BxjCeAIiMAhMU=; b=EW9c9TGcA1EoULMGu3GHH4uaXbSoinH8xv1eNNq5mrxcUUU9AT/NMvF9ows6B/2exgNUHVJa+RFxtfZ1FcppeIO/6M0Ejv3Pabp7ORFVNMTbz5GUPJuAlvC28xGyuze3rNHFh3aen9NpEdNJTZ+enWTGDIIMn7QZU9drx515oyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fRRytkvrafaDUEFB8y0d0cb+ny9YdARFKZPpklBQdLm9Cv8EAJuI38f0tJ+n4lgghjJCRLvN2ip5z6jl6l/ZtPx277SS23flesvh8XDPxHBL68VUui/HzGZ8ICSDkLpZ6Z8TLPhq51QbWAcaqdV1DxJknUmosnN+1CU/ZqHWp10= Received: by 10.78.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr1886180hud.1189920194633; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.190.13 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <33e260400709152223x4f65aa7ei4005b39ce67ecdee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:53:14 +0530 From: "Venkata Krishnan" To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Export Notification - Using BouncyCastle in Tuscany Rel 1.0 In-Reply-To: <46EC951D.3020901@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10345_15161358.1189920194624" References: <33e260400709141226l6c7f5539p6ab3199c15d6045b@mail.gmail.com> <698AF826-4064-4B8B-9D6E-B1BE947B6D46@gmail.com> <71e1b5740709150259r2efc6166gc86832a02c4e6a10@mail.gmail.com> <91EF7315-E4CA-4565-A157-ABA70711DAF6@gmail.com> <46EC8EFF.3030201@rowe-clan.net> <46EC9152.3000605@gmail.com> <46EC9323.2030602@rowe-clan.net> <46EC951D.3020901@gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_10345_15161358.1189920194624 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline As far as Tuscany is concerned our dependency on BouncyCastle comes thro our use of Rampart 1.3. I just checked up the Rampart distros and it does have the bouncy castle jar packed in it - releases and snapshots (eg. http://people.apache.org/dist/rampart/nightly/rampart-SNAPSHOT.zip). Though this is an indirect dependency I know its impending on Tuscany to individually address legal implications. If there is something that Rampart has followed for this, then I'd like to know that to follow in Tuscany as well. Thanks - Venkat On 9/16/07, James M Snell wrote: > > I'll say "Generally Soft". There are a couple of classes that require > bouncy to compile, but their use is entirely optional. Two of the > classes are example code that is only shipped in source form -- we test > compile the examples before shipping them. The other classes are > optional utility classes that are shipped as part of the optional > security module. Other crypto providers can be used as an alternative > and it would literally only take a couple of minutes to remove the > compile-time dependency. > > - James > > William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > > James M Snell wrote: > >> Well, as far as Abdera is concerned, there'd be absolutely no problem > >> with not shipping the jar. We can easily document how to go off and > get > >> the jar and the functions we're using it for can be provided by other > >> crypto providers. If the board does not want us shipping it, just let > >> us know and I'll pull it out. > > > > Out of curiosity, is it a hard or soft dependency? > > > > And I'm still curious to know if bouncycastle has an unencumbered > alternate > > download without IDEA. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > ------=_Part_10345_15161358.1189920194624--