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Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:25:51 -0700
From: "Matthieu Riou" <matthieu.riou@gmail.com>
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To: "Martijn Dashorst" <martijn.dashorst@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ODE Board Resolution draft
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Hi Martin,

Please see my answers in line:

On 7/6/07, Martijn Dashorst <martijn.dashorst@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Though not a IPMC member, I have some questions:
>
> In both the December 2006 and March 2007 reports ODE mentions that the
> project needs to attract more developers and diversify. The June'07
> report mentions leads to new committers. Have these joined the
> community? I ask this to see if you have adopted voting in new
> community members using Apache practices.


Yes we did, see [1] for the announcement. It's fairly recent but we've been
monitoring this particular committer already for a little while. Also note
that these mentions in the incubator reports come from ourselves, we wanted
to demonstrate our ability to attract more committers. However I'm not aware
of any IPMC concern regarding our diversity.

The PPMC has only been installed recently. How can we ascertain that
> the PPMC has enough experience to function given the raised concerns
> of a non-functioning PPMC until june? Especially if the former
> question hasn't been resolved (i.e. adding/voting in new committers).


The PPMC wasn't non-functioning, it's actually been functioning pretty well,
it was just not elected yet. All decisions were taken by the committers who
are now part of the PPMC as all PPMC do, it was just a bit more "in the
open". I think it has taken a while to formalize our PPMC because after the
incubation started the IPMC wanted to see how we were going to organize
ourselves (worries with 2 different code donations). And we've continued
this way for a while just because it was working pretty well and our mentors
were aware and happy about this evolution. I don't think there's any
dysfunction to see here, just a slightly different evolution path. We've
also been working on this and talking with different IPMC members about
graduation (including our mentors of course) and again, I don't think there
are too many concerns regarding us being ready (but anybody can correct me
if I'm wrong).

As for ascertaining the current PPMC, you will have to refer to the
development mailing-list. It's probably a bit more tedious but you'll get a
good idea of how our community has been working so far.

Thanks,
Matthieu

[1]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ode-dev/200707.mbox/%3cfbdc6a970707050940w4d554183j5fb87f6bce639172@mail.gmail.com%3e

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