Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 93222 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2007 19:57:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Jun 2007 19:57:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 61286 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jun 2007 19:57:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 61171 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jun 2007 19:57:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 61160 invoked by uid 99); 7 Jun 2007 19:57:28 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:57:28 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.112.202.2] (HELO mail.devtech.com) (66.112.202.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:57:24 -0700 Received: from localhost. ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1-dev) with SMTP ID 239 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:57:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Noel J. Bergman" To: Subject: RE: NMS Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:57:25 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5c902b9e0706071040m3ce6b3d2t3e415c813a82f1e3@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > the IETF specifically permits (and, some may say, encourages) > encumbered standards now. So, even implementing IETF standards > is now dangerous. The IETF has lost a lot of credibility as an independent standards body, and really ought to be ashamed. But they are hardly the only one with a gutless approach to IP. --- Noel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org