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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:59:30 -0700
From: Craig L Russell <Craig.Russell@Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: PPMC guidance on new committers
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Hi Niclas,

On Jun 4, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:

> On Tuesday 05 June 2007 07:48, Craig L Russell wrote:
>> Hi Niclas,
>>
>> There is one issue that still bothers me about your proposed ways of
>> voting. At some point, the nominee has to be asked, and accept, to
>> become a committer. This would have to be after the private votes are
>> done and before the public vote. So after the nominee accepts, they
>> suddenly see a [vote] thread regarding their candidacy on the dev
>> list and wonder what *that* is about.
>>
>> I think a public "welcome to the new committer" would be sufficient
>> "feel good" instead of the phony public vote.
>
> I don't know all the communities around ASF, but what I have seen  
> is that
> the "acceptance"/"decline" happens after the public vote. Entries  
> to PMCs
> seems more like "private vote" -> accept/decline -> "welcome" in the
> communities I know of.
>
> Mind you, my own opinion in the matter differs from how things are  
> done, for
> instance; IMHO either the vote is public OR private, and if the  
> latter then
> don't have the charade on the public list. That would simplify  
> things at
> Incubator as well.
>
>   1. [Discuss] on private@podling
>   2. [Vote] on private@podling
>   3. [Vote] on private@incubator
>   4. [Accept/Decline] in private mail
>   5. [Announce/Welcome] in public@podling

This is what I proposed to put into the guide. So at least two of us  
agree.

But I also put the "not necessarily recommended" approach into the  
guide for completeness. So there should not be any big issues.

Craig
>
>
> Cheers
> Niclas
>
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Craig Russell
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