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From Carl Trieloff <cctriel...@redhat.com>
Subject Re: NMS
Date Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:40:49 GMT

Coping incubator general and apache legal lists on this thread for 
additional comments on this topic.
Carl.

John O'Hara wrote:
> Yes, IBM are I fully paid up licensee of Java technology - and can do
> whatever they like with it.
>
> I asked permission of IBM if we could implement the XMS API some time 
> back,
> and they said they did not have the right to grant that approval....
>
> Unless Apache has a license to do this that I am not aware of, we are 
> not on
> safe ground since NMS is clearly a derived work of JMS.
>
> Wait for the lawyers....
> John
> On 01/06/07, Colin Crist <colincrist@hermesjms.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> In case you've not seen this, IBM have long since rendered the JMS API
>> into
>> C++, C and C#
>>
>> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarticles/0509_philli 
>>
>> ps/0509_phillips.html
>>
>> Colin.
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Arnaud Simon [mailto:asimon@redhat.com]
>> > Sent: 01 June 2007 15:34
>> > To: legal-discuss@apache.org; general@incubator.apache.org
>> > Cc: users@activemq.apache.org; qpid-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: NMS
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > We have been thinking about implementing the NMS API as part
>> > of the QPID .Net client. However we are concerned about
>> > potential legal issues.
>> > It seems to me that the NMS API is very similar to the JMS
>> > one but the JMS specification specifically licenses the
>> > technology "only for Java".
>> >
>> > This is the relevant license, copied directly from the JMS Spec
>> > document:
>> >
>> > "Subject to the terms and conditions of this license, Sun
>> > hereby grants you a fully-paid, non-exclusive,
>> > non-transferable, worldwide, limited license (without the
>> > right to sublicense) under Sun's intellectual property rights
>> > to review the Specification internally solely for the purpose
>> > of designing and developing your Java applets and
>> > applications intended to run on the Java platform. Other than
>> > this limited license, you acquire no right, title or interest
>> > in or to the Specification or any other Sun intellectual
>> > property. The Specification contains the proprietary
>> > information of Sun and may only be used in accordance with
>> > the license terms set forth herein. This license will
>> > terminate immediately without notice from Sun if you fail to
>> > comply with any provision of this license. Upon termination
>> > or expiration of this license, you must cease use of or
>> > destroy the Specification."
>> >
>> > Does anybody know if this concern has already been raised?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Arnaud
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>


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