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From Henning Schmiedehausen <henn...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Java Resource Simulator (JRS)
Date Sun, 24 Jun 2007 23:16:58 GMT
Is this a legal issue (you need clearance) or just a matter of "well,
there are a bazillion of wrong/strange/bad license headers with (C)'s
inside that we want to clean up first and need time"?

	Best regards
		Henning


On Sun, 2007-06-24 at 14:28 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
> On 6/24/07, Leo Simons <mail@leosimons.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 24, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
> > > This is a proposal to develop a Java-based interface response
> > > capture/playback tool.
> >
> > Interesting proposal. Seems useful.
> >
> > > Documentation
> > > ---------------------
> > > Documentation is available on request. See below.
> > >
> 
> > > Initial source
> > > -----------------
> > > Until the project has been accepted, code grant executed and ASL
> > > applied, we do not want to make the sources publicly available. This
> > > is in part because the sources currently include license headers
> > > inconsistent with public distribution. Interested parties may
> > > individually contact the proposal Champion below to work out the
> > > logistics of access to the source code during proposal review.
> >
> > I don't think we've done it this way before. I can understand not
> > wanting to make source openly available, but I don't like that "to
> > work out logistics of access" happens individually, and the "on
> > request" makes me a bit itchy, too.
> >
> 
> Its not really a matter of not wanting to, just the current license
> headers make posting it publicly dicey and there is also the issue of
> where to put it.  I am assuming that until the grant is executed
> ~psteitz is not OK.
> 
> > I think if you do things this way you should at least implement a
> > clear, open, privacy-respecting, documented and non-discriminating
> > logistics thingie (along the lines of "tarball is at https://<foo>/,
> > contact me for username/password. We won't use your contact details
> > in any way except to provide you the username/password.").
> 
> Agreed.  There is no intention to discriminate or limit in any way.
> 
> What have others done to workaround the bootstrapping problem for code
> that is currently internally licensed / restricted distribution before
> the proposal is accepted and a grant can be executed?
> 
> Phil
> 
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